I made a post about ObamaCare and this is the reponse I get from a scholl friend from waaay back. (Ain't FB great, I can heatedly debate with peeps I ain't seen in 30 years ).
Anyways.. this is discussion thus far. Welcoming any links to describe ti him in detail why OC is a good thing.


John Nuccio I care, just don't know if we can afford it
Saturday at 9:11pm via mobile · Like · 1

David Bear Of course we can. It's been shown that the costs will go down over time.
Yesterday at 6:28am · Like

John Nuccio Don't believe that for a minute. Too many rules, too much overhead, no way Obama care will work. Frankly I am not willing to support a socialist America. Too much government intrusion. What freedom do you give up next?
19 hours ago · Like

David Bear And you base these statements on....?
19 hours ago via mobile · Like

John Nuccio On world history
19 hours ago via mobile · Like

David Bear Oh...ok...cuz we've had lots of experience in this area. I was just hoping you could enlighten me so I could make an informed decision too.
Nothing like spreading opinions without facts to back them up. Good luck with that.
18 hours ago via mobile · Like

John Nuccio Will do. Have to go to a meeting and will fill in the blanks when I return. You might want to compare our current quality of medical services to those of countries offering socialized medicine. Pretty dramatic stuff.
18 hours ago · Like

An obvious point is that "quality of medical care" in the US is even more thoroughly limited than it is in countries where health care is guaranteed to everyone. The difference is that here the rationing is purely economic--the less money you have, the worse the care. I think it's also important to point out that Obama did not "socialize" health care. In effect what Obamacare does is to require insurance companies to provide coverage for more people than they had in the past. The mechanism to do that are the health cooperatives--I forget the right term for them--but all that those cooperatives do is to pool customers for the insurance companies. There is a coercive element to it, both for the companies and for the individual who otherwise would not want to get health insurance at all, but the idea is really not that radical--no more so than state requirements that drivers have automobile insurance.

Good stuff.. need more.

Got another pile of pro-Romney crap today, including a loooooong letter from some dipwad telling me all about how he was a lifelong Republican but voted for Obama in '08 and has suffered ever since from buyer's remorse. The letter got nastier from page to page, so I stopped at pg. and stuffed it into a new envelope (this idiot not only signed the letter, but had his address on the letterhead and envelope — not that I believe it's legit) with the following note scribbled on the top of the first page:

"Dear Ronald. Thank you for your concern. But in the future, if you must take a dump, please do so in your toilet — not my mailbox. Best wishes, and may your nut sack shrivel on November 6."

Worth the price of a stamp — even if it's wasted.