#570541 - 02/03/1208:22 AMRe: More job-killing from the Left.
[Re: steveg]
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According to my sources, the Jobless rate in Feb 2009 (when BO took over- lets not count the days from 1/21/2009 until 2/1/2009) was 8.1%... so we're back to where it was when he became POTUS. BUT realisticically, he can't turn things around on a dime... takes time... years... so even this comparison isn't accurate.
This fall when the GOP tries to stick the economy on BO, I sure hope the DNC has a clear, effective message that all this was GW and the Wall ST-Bankers mess and BO actions have only improved the economy from the near brink of disaster. He's the rescuer, not the demolition man W was.
I keep asking people, "Do you really want to give it back to the drunkards that caused the wreck ??"
And to respond to Mitt's claim he wants jobs for middle class people... really Mitt - what kind of job- WalMart greeter and burger flippers ?? :-P
Truthfully, i'm not sure if i understand this headline. Maybe it's because i'm not a native English speaking person.
It sounds/reads like what i'd imagine [NYT] propaganda "DOUBLESPEAK" would.
What are they saying? That "Hope a Recovery Is Blooming" is responsible for "Job Gains"? Usually "Job Gains" would Provoke/give_rise_to Hope for recovery.
On top of my confusion the Hope is that "a Recovery Is Blooming". ( ) I don't even see the buds of the recovery, much less a bloom! At this dull rate this recovery, when it arrives at full-bloom, is not going to be very vivid, colorful, lively, or intense.
Somebody please, how am i to interpret this headline?
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#570621 - 02/05/1203:45 AMRe: More job-killing from the Left.
[Re: katlpablo]
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More than 240,000 jobs gained last month. Unemployment has edged down to 8.3% — the lowest in three years. What's confusing you? Does your self-professed weak grasp of English* also diminish your math? The headline is about the optimism offered by the new Labor Dept. numbers. No spin. No Propaganda. No doublespeak. Does that help? There will be an oral quiz tomorrow morning.
*Doesn't seem to blunt your rather articulate anti-Obama/U.S. rants and copy/paste activity. I'm just sayin'...
More than 240,000 jobs gained last month. Unemployment has edged down to 8.3% — the lowest in three years. What's confusing you? Does your self-professed weak grasp of English* also diminish your math? The headline is about the optimism offered by the new Labor Dept. numbers. No spin. No Propaganda. No doublespeak. Does that help? There will be an oral quiz tomorrow morning.
*Doesn't seem to blunt your rather articulate anti-Obama/U.S. rants and copy/paste activity. I'm just sayin'...
I'm saying that i dont understand the title "Job Gains Reflect Hope a Recovery Is Blooming" and that it doesn't make sense to me. Maybe Your English comprehension is not good enough to tell if the title is flawed or not. In that case you need not answer, i'll understand. Maybe someone else can tell. Maybe somebody else can explain this title for an article about job statistics.
And since i only cut & paste, for once on these forums, i'll give you my personal opinion on something and that is that, judging from the title, i'd doubt that article is very reliable and it probably consists of pro Obama propaganda and half truths. There you have it, at your request.
#570632 - 02/05/1207:13 AMRe: More job-killing from the Left.
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If you can't understand the obvious — which I just gave you on a silver platter — there's nothing more I can say that will help your own miscomprehension of English, except, perhaps, Rosetta Stone®. Capicé, indeed.
If you can't understand the obvious — which I just gave you on a silver platter — there's nothing more I can say that will help your own miscomprehension of English, except, perhaps, Rosetta Stone®. Capicé, indeed.
Hey, you've grown up to be just like your teacher km. Congratulations. I hear you're calling him again.
And well, the rest was too high over my head! Thanks anyway.
COSTELLO: I want to talk about the unemployment rate in America.
ABBOTT: Good Subject. Terrible Times. It's 9%.
COSTELLO: That many people are out of work?
ABBOTT: No, that's 16%.
COSTELLO: You just said 9%.
ABBOTT: 9% Unemployed.
COSTELLO: Right 9% out of work.
ABBOTT: No, that's 16%.
COSTELLO: Okay, so it's 16% unemployed.
ABBOTT: No, that's 9%.
COSTELLO: WAIT A MINUTE. Is it 9% or 16%?
ABBOTT: 9% are unemployed. 16% are out of work.
COSTELLO: IF you are out of work you are unemployed.
ABBOTT: No, you can't count the "Out of Work" as the unemployed. You have to look for work to be unemployed.
COSTELLO: BUT THEY ARE OUT OF WORK!!!
ABBOTT: No, you miss my point.
COSTELLO: What point?
ABBOTT: Someone who doesn't look for work can't be counted with those who look for work. It wouldn't be fair.
COSTELLO: To whom?
ABBOTT: The unemployed.
COSTELLO: But they are ALL out of work.
ABBOTT: No, the unemployed are actively looking for work. Those who are out of work stopped looking. They gave up. And, if you give up, you are no longer in the ranks of the unemployed.
COSTELLO: So if you're off the unemployment rolls, that would count as less unemployment?
ABBOTT: Unemployment would go down. Absolutely!
COSTELLO: The unemployment just goes down because you don't look for work?
ABBOTT: Absolutely it goes down. That's how you get to 9%. Otherwise it would be 16%. You don't want to read about 16% unemployment do ya?
COSTELLO: That would be frightening.
ABBOTT: Absolutely.
COSTELLO: Wait, I got a question for you. That means there are two ways to bring down the unemployment number?
ABBOTT: Two ways is correct.
COSTELLO: Unemployment can go down if someone gets a job?
ABBOTT: Correct.
COSTELLO: And unemployment can also go down if you stop looking for a job?
ABBOTT: Bingo.
COSTELLO: So there are two ways to bring unemployment down and the easier of the two is to just stop looking for work.
ABBOTT: Now you're thinking like an economist.
COSTELLO: I don't even know what the hell I just said!
_________________________ Old farts, the hidden caulk of civilization. Jim Atkinson
judging from the title, i'd doubt that article is very reliable and it probably consists of pro Obama propaganda and half truths.
Veddy interesting. You can't tell what the heck the title is about... but from that indecipherable title.. you are able to discern the gist of the whole article. You would be a great archaeologist.
Thank you drjohn, that sentiment reflects my scepticism also. Both sides play the same fake math game.
As to headlines, my favorite - Headless body in topless bar
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#570665 - 02/05/1201:34 PMRe: More job-killing from the Left.
[Re: Llewelyn]
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Originally Posted By: Llewelyn
Thank you drjohn, that sentiment reflects my scepticism also. Both sides play the same fake math game.
As to headlines, my favorite - Headless body in topless bar
Actually, the original post was about the continued growth of new jobs rather than the actual employment rate. Things are improving unless you happen to believe the the GOP which continues to proclaim that things are worse now than they were in 2008.
#570693 - 02/06/1203:00 AMRe: More job-killing from the Left.
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Oh good grief! First you don't understand the headline. Now you want it justified? Here's an idea... if you have such huge problem w/the NYTimes, whine to their editorial staff. Or better still, just don't read the f'n rag in the first place!
Romney would want people to work for free if it was up to him and then fire them by giving all kinds of excuses.He cares about the poor like Assad cares about his people in Syria.
#570699 - 02/06/1209:00 AMRe: More job-killing from the Left.
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Originally Posted By: musicalmarv7
Romney would want people to work for free if it was up to him and then fire them by giving all kinds of excuses.He cares about the poor like Assad cares about his people in Syria.
Yes I love his quote to the contractor about using illegals !
#570795 - 02/07/1205:26 PMRe: More job-killing from the Left.
[Re: MacBozo]
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Originally Posted By: MacBozo
Originally Posted By: Llewelyn
Thank you drjohn, that sentiment reflects my scepticism also. Both sides play the same fake math game.
As to headlines, my favorite - Headless body in topless bar
Actually, the original post was about the continued growth of new jobs rather than the actual employment rate. Things are improving unless you happen to believe the the GOP which continues to proclaim that things are worse now than they were in 2008.
What I heard on CNN from a GOP Governor - Is that they are saying that OB did nothing for jobs - They are saying the real jobs that was created was at the State level and mostly from Repub governors <-- Yes they found away to steal the credit.