YOU're making too many assumptions !!

Any proof.. or just guessing ?? (I suspect the latter !)

Its' ALL guesswork !!

I have no proof of anything.

Why disappear the body? Is Bin Laden really dead? There were at least two versions of the "firefight[s]" and a version of no firefight at all.

The President makes the announcement of the raid and the death of Bin Laden but the reports on the action are contradictory. Did the President go public without fully knowing the facts on the ground?

Seems that the Seal's commanders or whoever are responsible are not being straight forward with the press or the public. They had to correct their account on several occasions, doesn't that undermine the credibility of the reports on the whole mission?

Apparently there were/are doubts about whether the Pakistanis were informed of the raid.

Bin Laden's daughter claims he was captured alive.

Information is scarce and unofficial, which creates fertile ground for all kind of speculation.

The situation is one of general unaccountability.

All this makes me wonder about the veracity of the claimed objective summed up in your words as "kill bin Laden or capture him if he surrender[s]".

Do you think this mission was to capture and bring him in alive?

Absolutely. Even if he was to never again see the light of day.. they would want him alive so they could torture him for secrets.
Also, regarding the different accounts of firefights and such...I believe that shiiit happens and stuff gets confused and misquoted. IF.. there was a cover up.. the stories would all be previously rehearsed and in sync.

No country was willing to bury him. Islamic law states 24 hours.

The US loses any way they go.

yawn

Something is going on…


May 8, 2011
Pakistan reaches out to Persian Gulf region
By M K Bhadrakumar
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Three Pakistani high-level delegations are touring the Persian Gulf region.[…]

[…]The Abbottabad operation has damaged the operational level working relationship between the US and Pakistani intelligence agencies and militaries, which needs some immediate therapy as time is of the essence of the matter in Afghanistan.

[…]No doubt, Malik briefed the Saudi leadership on what has been gleaned from bin Laden's family members who are in Pakistani custody.

[…]It seems highly unlikely, though, that the Saudis approve the unilateralist US operation in Abbottabad

[… more…]

[…]
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Well, the White House has offered an explanation regarding the "burial at sea" which I think we all know by now. Although I wouldn't be shocked if his death was faked and he's in a black site somewhere. No way of really knowing for sure, though -- even if the White House released the photos and stuff there would always be those who would think those are fake as well ...



I think that's obviously the case. The White House admitted as much when issuing their corrections.



Quite the contrary. If they were fictionalizing what happened wouldn't it be in their best interests to keep with the original story that bin Laden was cowardly hiding behind a woman while he brandished a weapon, leaving the SEALs no choice but to kill him? If its a massive cover-up, how does the White House benefit from issuing successive corrections? What do they gain by saying later that he was in fact unarmed?

In my mind successive corrections actually argue more for the information being more or less reliable than an orchestrated facade ...



Really? The official releases I've read from both the US and Pakistan say Pakistan was not informed. Pakistan has been quite public about their displeasure regarding this.



Captured alive, then killed as I understand that report. If true, a troubling development. Though the report comes from only a single source as far as I know (al Arabiya, iirc), so how reliable it is remains to be seen.



Welcome to the internet ;-)



Mrrr? I think the White House pretty much owned the entire operation. In what way are they not accountable for what happened?

Well, this could have been handled better.

Osama would die, no matter what, but a trial and justice would have been better closure, for all involved. Try him and then draw and quarter the sand sh!t, big fukiin deal. And it would have been an effective medium for all sorts of rubbish, getting the full weight/verdict of the world, putting Al-Qaeda and supporters on notice, etc, etc. Big terror win on the war on terror and anybody that wants to cove r that back. But no, we just dump this desert pVssy a$$ in the friggin deep, and don't get no play off of that sh!t!

We were deprived of getting across the full weight and verdict of the world of the futility of sand niggers, towelheads, desert gooks, whatever.

Pakistani-Washington suberterfuge - What a bunch of stupid smack. Now Pakistanis are freaked, no confidence in once-hero military, instant rapmed up national-sclale hyper-nuevo India paranoia, a freindly border probably soon to go away, etc, hperized nutcasecityville, Al Quaeda in the nuclear system? rogue money-for-ntohtin bureaucrats confushed and dazed, braindead impossible ambition, paranoia, paranoia, paranoia - Sounds like a ripe tinderkeg to me.

Burial at sea - More smakck. An Osama meormemorial would normally be a bureaucratic wetdream, a black hole for invading privacy, surveillance, "data" acquisition, and they could flip that for surveilling half the freakin globe. If you knew someone who knew someone who glanced at Osama's tomb, there'd be a five million dollar file on you. Do that Qoran bullsh!t, facing the right sh!t, etc, whtever, and rock and roll the intelligence bullsh!t.

They did this sh!t all worng, they may bot be pVssies, but they're stupid non-pVssies (wwell, aside from the valiant Seals, all we know is they're armchair warriors).

Ed

Jeezus, we're civilfukkinized, afterall, aren't we?

You mean an inquest? That would require cooperation of the suspects which might not be forthcoming in handing over the video. As to whether a crime has been committed that's what the courts are for - prosecutions proceed from a prima facie case and it seems self evident that we have one here - an unarmed man was shot dead and mutilated. If the suspects are found not guilty obviously they'll be discharged.

km

Yeah well it wasn't a very good one - family members have a right to choose their own undertaker and attend the funeral.

km

Personally I go back to the George W Bush measure - what would folks have be saying if this had happened during his administration, what with the story changes et al.

However, from information I've found out, it was speculated that the compound may have been rigged with explosives and the seals were not going to take any chances with Osama pushing the button to detonate the area. Basically the only chance he had was to turn the lights on lie face down in the room with his hands on his head.