#552544 - 02/24/1103:05 PMRe: A historic crossroad for Israel, too…
[Re: carp]
MicMeister
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Originally Posted By: carp
Well Get them to agree with 181, I mean Palestine and the Arab League. After all the disputed lands in the 181.
Considering how the Arab people are now toppling their regimes, the probability for this is now higher than in decades. Most have been dictatorships and at least Egypt has already promised to respect the peace treaty with Israel.
#552549 - 02/24/1103:30 PMRe: A historic crossroad for Israel, too…
[Re: carp]
MicMeister
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I have a hunch religion is mostly used as a means of power and oppression in there, kind of like in christian Rome and medieval to baroque Europe, and doesn't really reflect the views of the youth.
Egypt for instance seems to be becoming a truly secular state, where the dreaded Muslim Brotherhood is really a fringe organization. Just another political party among others.
Turkey is in many ways a good model of a secular Islamic country. Well, even they still have a long way to go in many ways.
Anyways carp, the way you phrased that could actually be considered demeaning and a severe underestimation of the people in those countries.
#552560 - 02/24/1106:00 PMRe: A historic crossroad for Israel, too…
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carp
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I have a hunch religion is mostly used as a means of power and oppression in there, kind of like in christian Rome and medieval to baroque Europe, and doesn't really reflect the views of the youth.
You are right. In your face is how their females are treated. Less than human.
Anyways carp, the way you phrased that could actually be considered demeaning and a severe underestimation of the people in those countries.
Nothing wrong with any of those people there. Just keep the religion personal and private. Not enforced into law, punishable by death. By Bible or Quran.
Can't find any comment about 200 people killed in Libya, can you help me?
UPDATE
The most complete and interesting (in my opinion) take i have heard or read so far is by Victor Kotsev, linked bellow.
Feb 25, 2011 Scars show as Libya drowns in blood By Victor Kotsev Victor Kotsev is a journalist and political analyst based in Tel Aviv. “ […]
Libya is drowning in blood. The confirmed death toll so far, cited by Human Rights Watch and world media, is around 300, but in reality it is certainly higher - according to estimates by the Italian foreign minister, possibly 1,000. Witnesses cited by The New York Times on Tuesday claimed that pro-government militias were carting away bodies of protesters; the capital Tripoli was described as a "war zone", "littered with dead bodies". Gaddafi allegedly used practically all means available - including snipers, imported militias roaming the streets and firing indiscriminately, warplanes, helicopters and even naval bombardment.
You know KM you have real hatred in your heart for Israel maybe you should go there and see what this country really represents in democracy and its struggle to gain it.