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#55136 - 04/02/03 05:37 AM Re: Wow, if this one is even close... [Re: Trog]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Also, is there any real reason why it would be accurate to compare the transition from G3 to G4 to the transition from G4 to Power 970? Are the differences in each succession significantly similar? I have no idea.<p><hr></blockquote><p>If you were to compare it to other transitions it would be best to look at them all. And if you do that you can look into what different execs have done in the past and start to analyze it, but all of that is beyond my knowledge so i just give up at that point. <br><br>
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#55137 - 04/02/03 07:07 PM Re: Wow, if this one is even close... [Re: greenme1]
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<em>1)The PPC 970 is in production now, and will be going into mass production; it will also be used in IBM Blade servers.</em><br><br>That's true, but it's not in mass production *yet*. As you'll remember, the 450 and 500 Mhz G4s were *produced* before the G4 towers were announced. Production on a limited scale and production on an apple-quantity scale are two incredibly different things, as we all found out months later when you could finally buy one of those supposedly-produced 500 Mhz G4s.<br><br><em>2,3,5)It is not unheard of for Apple to change their systems dramatically.</em><br><br>That's true. All I'm saying is that it seems like they'd be making *lots* of changes at once, and that carries risks. The way to alleviate these risks is to delay the intro so that you have time to do a lot more testing and ensure mass-availability.<br><br>I'm not saying that it won't or can't happen, I just find it unlikely that Apple would push the schedule so aggressively in the face of so many variables.<br><br>neye<br><br>

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#55138 - 04/02/03 08:55 PM Re: Wow, if this one is even close...
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That's all true, but IBM has much more advanced production centers and would have a much better chance of succeeding in producing a new chip without any major delays. So at this point it's one of those "let's hope" situations.<br><br>
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#55139 - 04/02/03 09:45 PM Re: Wow, if this one is even close... [Re: greenme1]
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definitely agree with this:<br><em>So at this point it's one of those "let's hope" situations.</em><br><br>Belive me, as an AMD partisan, I'm similarly hoping for a little IBM magic, as otherwise INTC is going to steamroll them real good. Hammer looks to be having a bunch of trouble, so AMD recently had to buy $42M worth of IBM know-how to help them get it out the door. <br><br>neye<br><br><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by neye_eve on 04/02/03 04:46 PM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>

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#55140 - 04/02/03 10:21 PM Re: Wow, if this one is even close...
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C'mon, Big Blue!! <br><br><br>

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#55141 - 04/03/03 03:44 AM More fuel for the fire [Re: Trog]
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This is from a story at MC, about Berklee School of Music's new requirement that all incoming students have a Mac laptop:<br><br>[color:blue]If you are headed for Berklee this fall, hold off for now on buying a PowerBook G4 or an iBook, according to the admissions staff. The college said that it expects Apple to roll out new hardware before the Fall semester kicks off, and it doesn't want incoming freshmen stuck with obsolete hardware.</font color=blue><br><br>So what do the good folks at Berklee know?<br><br><br><br>Great wits are sure to madness near allied.--John Dryden, "Absalom and Achitophel"
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#55142 - 04/03/03 06:32 PM Re: More fuel for the fire [Re: yoyo52]
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I'm guessing updated iBooks - it's their turn now, isn't it?<br><br>

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#55143 - 04/04/03 05:44 AM Re: More fuel for the fire [Re: hayesk]
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I don't think so, look at this<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> The computer and software purchases qualify for inclusion in federal student loan and financing packages. The exact costs may vary based on the latest hardware and software options at the time of purchase. For the purpose of student federal financial aid, the amount of $2,500 has been included in the "Cost of Attendance." Further financial aid information will be provided at the time of aid application.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Unless I'm reading it wrong (i may very well be...) it says that they expect the computer & software to cost $2,500.<br><br>
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#55144 - 04/04/03 06:00 PM Re: More fuel for the fire [Re: greenme1]
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Knowing how colleges do these things, I suspect that rolled into that sum is "support," which includes everything from the ethernet network on campus to the tech dude who is supposed to have everything up and running.<br><br><br><br>Great wits are sure to madness near allied.--John Dryden, "Absalom and Achitophel"
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#55145 - 04/06/03 03:47 PM Re: More fuel for the fire [Re: yoyo52]
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Alright, then it must be then new 12" PB eh? <br><br>
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