#550786 - 02/06/1112:15 PMRe: An Articulate Spokesperson for Gay Marriage
[Re: Leslie]
keymaker
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No I don't agree with that.. discrimination may be right or wrong. I'm sure if you think about it you could come up with examples of discrimination you would completely endorse.
#550789 - 02/06/1101:17 PMRe: An Articulate Spokesperson for Gay Marriage
[Re: Clark]
carp
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Many people believe that gays should have "civil unions" with all benefits of a marriage. But civil unions make gays second class citizens because there is no equality when you tell gays they can't be married.
I dunno I mean if that civil unions carries the same benefits as marriage <-- whats the difference ? To continue a fight to just be able to say I am married is silly and childish - IMO. Might as well call marriage a civil union which in a sense thats what it is, a union between 2 people.
#550792 - 02/06/1101:35 PMRe: An Articulate Spokesperson for Gay Marriage
[Re: carp]
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That's the point carp. If a civil union and marriage are supposedly the same, why, then, do we need two labels? But, in fact, they are not the same. And given that a civil union does not deliver all the benefits of marriage, it is the same as telling Gay couples that they are not equal to heterosexuals.
#550794 - 02/06/1101:59 PMRe: An Articulate Spokesperson for Gay Marriage
[Re: steveg]
carp
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That's the point carp. If a civil union and marriage are supposedly the same, why, then, do we need two labels?
I would not call it a label, rather a distinction. For documentation reasons, what is on paper.
Example; Missing couple. Police would know to look for a man and a woman
given that a civil union does not deliver all the benefits of marriage, it is the same as telling Gay couples that they are not equal to heterosexuals.
#550804 - 02/06/1103:02 PMRe: An Articulate Spokesperson for Gay Marriage
[Re: steveg]
carp
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Then you agree it's discriminatory, yes?
No Well if civil union and marriage has the same benefits, it is not discriminatory.
You sound like a homophobe apologist.
LOL Think outside the box. Think about 3rd party, who reads documentation. I already gave one example. Marriage = man and woman Civil Union = man and man or woman and woman
Simply gives - say emergency responders a heads up on what to look for. Another example, Fiery plane crash, they are looking for a married couple but only find 2 men - they continue to look for his wife for days on end.
or that what I am describing is unfair?
That is correct - civil union should have exactly the same benefits as marriage. As mentioned above there should be a distinction between the 2, for documentation reasons.