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#550801 - 02/06/11 10:44 PM Re: Makes me want to by another gun [Re: steveg]
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They do work steve.

If you are a felon you have to steal a gun or buy one off the black market.

As for the woman and Longner, they both were clearly unstable, both have encounters with the law - just never convicted as a felon. Hence they could still buy guns.

All I am saying is make buying guns much more difficult.
If you have been in a mental hospital or had to go to anger management classes, you should be put on a no gun list the same one that felons are on.

We already do the same thing for DWI driver, we yank their license.

There also should be better Federal laws, since guns laws between states very greatly. In some states all you need to do is go to a Gun Show (convention of sorts) buy a gun and walk out in less than 5 minutes, no back ground check, felon or non felon.

Also
Mexico has much much stricter gun laws than the US. They simply export drugs and import guns from the US, it is that simple to buy guns. Kinda ridicules when you think about.
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#550802 - 02/06/11 10:49 PM Re: Makes me want to by another gun [Re: carp]
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All I am saying is make buying guns much more difficult.

And...
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We already do the same thing for DWI driver, we yank their license.
Now I know you're just skimming what I've written.

Fuhgettaboutit, man. I'm done carrying on a conversation with myself.
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#550805 - 02/06/11 11:10 PM Re: Makes me want to by another gun [Re: steveg]
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LOL you to funny.

Skimming ?

Steve
Putting a stop on extended clips and auto guns (over kill) does absolutely nothing from preventing guns getting into the wrong hands in the first place.

I see your point.
If you don't see my point, I understand.
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#550810 - 02/07/11 01:14 AM Re: Makes me want to by another gun [Re: carp]
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This head on desk moment brought to you by Gerbers Strained Babies.

Over and completely out.
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#550812 - 02/07/11 01:18 AM Re: Makes me want to by another gun [Re: steveg]
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Yeah I think we've beat this "dead horse" until it was Ken-L-ration !! laugh
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#550830 - 02/07/11 12:41 PM Re: Makes me want to by another gun [Re: steveg]
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Come on Steve.. just one more.. yew kin dew eeetttt!
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#550833 - 02/07/11 01:58 PM Re: Makes me want to by another gun [Re: newkojak]
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Originally Posted By: newkojak
A silencer for home protection? I'm sorry, but that's the most labored rationalization I have ever heard.


That's not actually what I was saying, just most folks don't realise how loud a gun is in enclosed space without ear protectors on. That said, your home protector would probably benefit from the loud bang - sure they'll be disoriented, but so will the bad guy, who might also be scared enough to run off, and the noise should attract law enforcement
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#550834 - 02/07/11 02:09 PM Re: Makes me want to by another gun [Re: Llewelyn]
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We don't do the same from DWI. Once someone has been caught DWI then they lose their licence. What you're suggesting with preventing folks from buying guns if they had anger management or patient at a mental institution would be akin to enforcing - anyone caught intoxicated in public or enrolled in an AA 12 step program should not be issued with a drivers license or be allowed to buy a car.
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#550860 - 02/07/11 09:01 PM Re: Makes me want to by another gun [Re: Llewelyn]
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Originally Posted By: Llewelyn
We don't do the same from DWI. Once someone has been caught DWI then they lose their license. What you're suggesting with preventing folks from buying guns if they had anger management or patient at a mental institution would be akin to enforcing - anyone caught intoxicated in public or enrolled in an AA 12 step program should not be issued with a drivers license or be allowed to buy a car.


Humm - well yes and no.

Should a DWI person with (no) license , be able to buy a car <-- ahhh no.
Certainly if that person gets their license back <- then yes.

Should a mental patient or anger management person be able to buy a gun <- Ahh No.
Certainly if they can get a clean bill of mental health <-- then yes.

Convicted felons, cannot buy guns or even own a business, their pretty much screwed for life. Even if their crime did not even involved using a gun.
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#550871 - 02/07/11 09:45 PM Re: Makes me want to by another gun [Re: carp]
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But isn't there grades of mental patient? Or are we just saying that 90% of hollywood shouldn't have a gun, because they all see a therapist twice/week! Whatever happens, you're going down a similar road to the old UK requirement for a firearms license, you needed signoff from a psychiatrist and senior police officer to be allowed to get a firearms license - but then things fell apart, if you then went nuts or could hide it in the short interview with the psychiatrist, there was no recertification requirements, or at the very least it was issued pretty much on a nod and a wink.

I would agree with you if firearms license was akin to aircraft pilot licensing - for which you need frequent medical certification, where in the case of firearms license you would need continuing mental certification. Unfortunately in the US, such requirement just ain't gonna fly.
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