" . . . and Obama being the first Black African American President of the US.


At first I thought, yep, you've nailed it. And you have, jerry. But then I thought ~ The fact that the vast majority of the country doesn't care about his color? Says more good about us as a nation than the bad that the TP says. That's good. We've still got so far to go when it comes to race in the US, but damn . . . we DID elect a black man. I'm feeling pretty proud ~ The shame belongs to the TP.

Yeah I thought was sacrilegious !

Besides who wants to bring a gun to a lightening-bolt fight ?

I actually think it started before Obama, but he just made them more visceral and open... along with pushing from airheads like Palin, Bachman, Angle... etc.

Their platform is "Emboldening Idiots!"

If it's okay to carry concealed, since those with permits are involved with very few homicides, why is it Ipso facto insane to carry in church?

As always if a guy is determined to cause mayhem at a church, a little thing like legality would not stand in his way.

Dave

If I read you correctly, you're saying "Sh!t happens", so let's give Sh!t a helping hand." Is that it?

Like I mentioned
We need to stop crazy people from buying guns.

A good example;
Is that mother who just shot and killed her 2 teen agers, because they mouth off.

Currently a felon is put on the No Gun list.

Her case, they were going to consoling and I guess anger management classes. Which is not a felony.

Sooooo
If ya going through (anger) management classes - you should not be able to buy a gun - DuH

People can do what they want, but I think HE might be think it inapproopriate... preaching peace and love but packing heat !

What you say could happen but what are the odds... it's like preparing to win the lottery.

Maybe it's me but IF I got shot and killed in church, I hope HE'd be very sympathetic and I'd have eternal life...
when you're talking eternity -this nanosec on earth doesn't mean crap if you get there.

You seem to think we're on the same page, you and I. But it ain't so. You keep beating the don't let crazy people have guns drum, and I'm asking why extended magazines and other über ordinance should be made available to Joe Schmoe. Sane people can kill, too. The real issue isn't mental health. It's the laws (and their vigorous enforcement) that are needed to keep such technology off of the public retail shelves.

Your confusing factors with issues. Mental health — in many of these cases is a factor. The issue is the alarming availability of overkill merchandise.

Please delete.

Steve
I know we are not on the same page - ever since you jumped on mine.

I said before, maybe you missed it in other threads that extended clips were illegal at one time. That Bush law lapsed under Obama.

As for
Automatic weapons - I really don't see where people need to defends themselves - a bird gun would do just fine. Unless they fear the government at which point, is well pointless.

Mental Health - is the main factor.
People in their right minds is not going to buy weapons to begin with. People who use their guns for hunting, is another story, even if you think in these days there are stores all over the US (where you can buy meat) and be cheaper than buying bullets let alone gas to get the happy hunting grounds.

btw - even hunters shoot themselves.

"People in their right minds is not going to buy weapons to begin with."


Then Little Sister and I are not in our right minds. Neither was my dad and granddads, one grandmother, two uncles, one aunt, a good number of close friends . . .






Edit: Little Sister has never hunted, I've only shot dove. The one aunt didn't hunt either.