That's it! You are dead to me!

I understand we have laws Lea, but where should they restrict/ban and what should they permit?
You're spot on the common sense.
I'd like there not to be guns except in the hands of law enforcement (militia) and the military, however I Know that's unrealistic in this country.

So given the alternatives, allow all hunting guns and hand guns limited to 5-6 shots and none automatic. If one can't take out an attacker (defense) in 5-6 shots - they have no business with a gun. Require safety training for all owners (just like we do to drive a car).
To me that's common sense. I'm also against carrying concealed guns... never can tell who's the "bad guy" and who isn't. I just want us to go back to a "Dodge City" mentality.

"I just want us to go back to a "Dodge City" mentality."


OK, I'm gonna guess you left out "don't."

I don't have any problem with your proposals. But sadly, I don't have any faith in our local, state or federal governments to approach this in a rational fashion.

But this conversation will fall by the wayside soon enough, and it won't come up again until there's another tragedy. Ain't that America?

Yep, I meant Don't want .

OMG - you can read my mind !

Only because you're a fellow Texan.


Wait! Damn, did I let a cat outta the bag? Sorry.

OMG-- what a terrible cats-after-me !

The problem (in the US) with restrictions to ownership of firearms is the only avenue we have available for background checks is:
1) Criminal record
2) Bat$hit crazy determined by a US court

If you go see a pshrink that is covered under doctor-patient privilage and cannot be used to determine your unsuitability to own a weapon. Though even in the UK (back when private citizens could own firearms) you only needed a psych sign-off to get a gun, there were a number of cases where an individual passed the evaluation and then later was determined to be nuts (20-20 hindsight). And in the UK these crazies were the ones who caused the successive knee-jerk legislation to outlaw gun ownership in that country.


Personally I don't see issue with US legislation that would require steps to earn a firearms license, and a requirement to have a firearms license to be able to purchase a weapon. As has been noted, it's a requirment for road vehicles and aviators.

Thats good, Llwelyn.

However, ownership of fire arms?

Today - there is really no need to hunt for food - or defend yourself from Bat shiit crazy British or American Indians for that matter, as our forefathers place in the constitution (at that time). Of-course they wanted the Militia to remain to be armed as well, with what? their hunting riffles .

Today we have, people who gun down 9 year olds because they have a right to buy a gun.

There are other countries that have much much stricter gun laws and they too have - death by gun fire. But no where near the US.

Would gun laws solve the problem - NO
But would sure cut down in the deaths by guns.

Carp, on that matter you and I agree.

That's exactly what a colleague of mine (from London) told me back in 1980 about the UK. Sure they have people shot . . <1% of the US, BUT there's no robbing 7-11s and drive by shootings. Those crooks that get and use guns are for big heists - not petty crap, and the murder rate is much lower than here. No party or bar shootings.

Let's face it- when it comes to guns we're very UNcivilized.