Please leave Grace out of this. And how do you she and I had an argument?

I'm not sure how a balanced discussion depends on how far in one direction or another one leans politically -- wouldn't balance just require two differing points of view?

And indeed you did not use the exact term "hounded" ... well spotted =P

As far as feeling unwelcome in a forum largely populated by those of an opposing point of view, I think I'd be smart enough to expect some to pigeonhole and to deal with them appropriately ;-)

I might feel disinclined to continue if I got nothing but such responses -- but I haven't seen that happen here terribly often ...

As far as feeling unwelcome in a forum largely populated by those of an opposing point of view

Thats the point to this conversation - right

This forum does lean to the left.

I thought the point of this conversation was that this forum is incapable of rationally discussing an opposing point of view ...

If it's really that the forum leans to the Left, well duh ...

If it's that because the forum leans to the Left it is necessarily incapable of intelligently discussing an opposing point of view or intolerant of those who hold them, I disagree ...

You just proved my point -
Thanks Big Six. In a unknowing way.

Like with in any pro-con discussion - it does turn into a condescending tone. in favor of the majority of the room.

What exactly was condescending?

The "Duh?" ... Seriously, the fact that this place leans Left is pretty much a no- brainer. If that's what this is all about, I don't think anyone disagrees =) So yeah, that's pretty much a "duh" moment. I don't think that's a particularly inappropriate comment ...

Apart from that possibility, I'm not sure what else would cause offense ...

And I guess I should add that if "Duh" is the level that's supposed to be scaring people away ... well, that's just pretty sad ...

I'm pre-judging the use here of terms and conspiracy jargon that is pretty well saturated the news channel that this post was discussing ... and the poll of the mindset of FoxNews viewers. The thread doesn't or shouldn't be about you or the antagonism you think is being unloaded on you because of a differing opinion.

If you feel I prejudged you, then I apologize. I'd rather be discussing political issues than personal bickering. Or the idiocy of Glenn Beck.

Stop with that business about I'm left of you. It's about as aggravating as T. is right of 6 is centered over S. is behind and C. is nowhere.

I'm as sick of being defined by other peoples perceptions of my politics as probably the majority of the peeps who stopped posting here. And just as sick as I am of hearing the "they're losers, so they just went slinkin' away into the night" crap. Earth to LeBox? Dems are now officially losers. Political fortune and misfortune is an equal opportunity nailer.

And I not only don't remember mojo making a less than graceful exit ~ I don't believe it happened. To paraphrase? Link or it never happened.

Methinks "further left than me" is just code for "anti-Obama". Whatevah.

But credit where it's due: the Dems got a lot of good stuff done in the last couple of weeks.

And no credit where it's not due: Why did it all have to wait 'til the Lame Duck? More guts and leadership before November may have produced stronger legislation, and preserved the House majority. I'll say it again. The left deserved loss they got. So I expect the port list in here will now take on a defensive tone.

Indie be lookin' mighty good to me, too.