MacBozo
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Actually, mojo went off the deep end. Started screaming "Socialist! Communist! Fascist!" without any provocation as I recall. Took all of us by surprise, because he had been pretty well reasoned until his guys actually lost.
steveg
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I vaguely remember him leaving, but I don't remember a tirade. Will just take your word for it. It's not germane to my point, anyway. One guy going postal for whatever reason and new prospects passing by our front door are two different things.
We used to have some pretty intense snowball fights in here. But that was when the two camps were more equal in number. Now, if some poor schmuck takes a right wing position, he or she quickly finds him or herself alone and facing a wall of liberal wrath.
Meh, I can see I'm not gonna get anywhere with this line of thinking, either. Carry on...
MacBozo
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Heh-heh. I'd actually welcome some well reasoned conservative opinions here. Just haven't seen much other than TP parroting of Beck and Rush and the wicked witch of the North.
EDIT: I guess mojo has checked in occasionally. Tahoe is welcome to further explain his views if he wishes. I'd like to see if he has something to offer.
six_of_one
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Now, if some poor schmuck takes a right wing position, he or she quickly finds him or herself alone and facing a wall of liberal wrath.
See, I guess this is where you lose me a little -- that and the "opposing views are not welcome here" deal. I haven't seen any foaming-at-the-mouth get-the-he'll-out attitudes in here in a long time. The most liberal poster here I can think of Is Gary, and agree with him or not, he usually posts cogent replies or opinions (charts included!) ... I certainly have never seen him or anyone else tell someone they shouldn't post or that their opinions are unwelcome ...
Part of the problem *is* that there is an unbalance here right now, so a view from the Right is probably going to meet with a disproportionate number of replies from the Left. Is that hounding or unwelcoming? Kind of depends on your expectations I guess. Although in this thread I thought there was a fairly equal back-and-forth with Tahoe holding his own fairly well, and I certainly hope that spirited encounters won't dissuade him from posting further ...
Although things aren't going to get any better either if any responses to a view from the Right are automatically written-off as hounding and such, 'cause that'll scare new folk off just as much as actual exchanges might :-D
garyW
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The most liberal poster here I can think of Is Gary, and agree with him or not, he usually posts cogent replies or opinions (charts included!)
Really? I recall Lea, Steve, DLC, Michael all being to left of my opinion of Obama's stand on the tax bill. Lea even posted her praise of Keith Olbermann's POV.
I recall the same positions on the health care bill. And the financial bill. And the Afghanistan policy. All of these forum members posted their POV that was left-leaning of my own. They all seemed to support Hillary or Edwards in the campaign who were certainly left of Obama's positions.I happen to agree with most policy positions and the approach taken by this administration. Even Reboot calls positions I support "same as the old boss." I am certainly not the most liberal posting member on this forum.
Lea and Steve can post about the blowhard rants of Olbermann or Ed Schultz or Lawrence O'Donnell. Yet I pointed out that TahoeTeal (who's last appearance here was to defend Rush Limbaugh and the Tea Party ... and criticize the liberal opinions of forum members) did nothing more than throw out Beck conspiracy talking points on the all-mighty powers of The Left. He didn't deny it, or discuss what he had posted when it brought up as Beckspeak ... he said it was "childish name calling", our minds were "steel traps" and we needed to educate ourselves. More Beck talking points. And he played the poor victim with Steve's encouragement. If my steel trap doesn't believe Tides/Ben & Jerry/Soros/Apollo/Black Panthers/ Acorn, etc. is controlling the Liberal Agenda or policy of the Obama administration, then TahoeTeal is more than welcome to come discuss it all to the forum, but to drop that turd bomb into this thread and play the victim is just flame bait. (which in hindsight, I probably should have ignored).
steveg
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Part of the problem *is* that there is an unbalance here right now, so a view from the Right is probably going to meet with a disproportionate number of replies from the Left. Is that hounding or unwelcoming? Kind of depends on your expectations I guess.
And the "unbalance" is self-perpetuating. If you posted a liberal POV in a mostly conservative forum, and you were immediately indicted as an MSNBC/Olbermann/Maddow follower, and effectively had your views dismissed on that basis, I dare-say you'd feel a wee bit unwelcome. And I didn't use the term "hounded", BTW.
I think this forum tilts too far to the left to allow a more balanced discussion. It's that simple. It doesn't necessarily apply to everyone, but it sets what I believe is an unmistakable tone. I have no doubt that's an unpopular position, but it's mine and I'm sticking with it.
MacBozo
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Originally Posted By: steveg
If you posted a liberal POV in a mostly conservative forum, and you were immediately indicted as an MSNBC/Olbermann/Maddow follower, and effectively had your views dismissed on that basis, I dare-say you'd feel a wee bit unwelcome.
But, I wouldn't stomp away declaring I was offended or a victim.