Jerry, I didn't stop you from speaking what you want... please give me the same courtesy.

When I saw your open-ended question a big red flag went up because I remember past posts where you are very negative about Apple and Steve. Which is fine... you can have your opinion... just don't expect it to be popular in here.

Could you give us a hint?

Are you under a non-disclosure agreement with what information you have?

Really, we could probably have some really good discussion if you'd lighten up and share. .

Since you've been a member of the forum, you've hinted on several occasions that you have a relative who works for Apple or who has access to getting Apple products at reduced prices.

You seem to present yourself as having insider information concerning Apple. Your original post now seems that you probably know that because we're Apple devotee's that most of us would say positive things about Jobs.

Would the next thing in this scenario be that you would then give us some real "skinny" on Apple and Mr. Jobs? Things that would really "open our eyes" to the real Jobs.

I'm just guessing here, Jerry. But why would you even ask the question? Did you think some folk here would have dirt and negatives about Jobs, or did you just want to see all the good things that might come up about him?

For me:

He is a very successful inventor and business man. While not responsible for every innovation coming out of Apple, he knows how to run a company that gets access to brilliant minds in all aspects of business.

His products may not be the cheapest and best on the earth, but they appeal to me and many others -- enough to make him a millionaire several times over.

I wish he would make things that lasted beyond the AppleCare agreements -- like 30 years -- and still would be useful with current technology. Not possible, I suppose.

Anyway, the egg I am cooking on top of my 24inch iMac is about ready for my brunch sandwich, so I'll stop here.

I have a friend visiting the Philippines right now. She has family there but we're concerned and will be glad when she returns home.

Regards,
Ethel/Kate


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The "personally" I haven't met him and I doubt we would get along or even enjoy a beer together. Publicly I know him only two ways.

1) His company stock. In ten years he has taken a 9 dollar stock and driven it to over 300. That is 34 times multiplying of worth. It has helped me out "personally" quite a bit. I went fishing this morning because of Jobs.

His company had a market cap one tenth of MSFT and is now worth more than MSFT. In the same ten years Bill Gates stack has gone from 25 to 25.5. A MSFT investor would have been better off putting the money in her mattress. At least you don't pay the fees and it is readily available.

2) The products he makes. Picture a world without Apple. Would we be putzing on computers with Windows NT right now? Would the computers be grey? Would your phone be a bit bland?

Jobs should really be grateful to someone who donated his liver so he can live don't you think? He was a dead man without this liver donation.He is a excellent ceo and took his company to the top which I applaud his effects but condone his actions the way he treats his workers as I know from a friend employed there.

Hopefully your friend missed the terrible typhoon we are experiencing here in the Philippines.Lucky I missed it by living in Mindanao.Getting back to Jobs I do have a friend employed there and he tells me Jobs is not a nice person to work with.I think Apple products are exemplary from the other computers out there on the market. Their customer service is excellent also as from my own experience.I am not trying to negate in any way that apple is a bad product or influence anyone else in this matter to buy it or not.That is their choice.I know apple owners are a very tight knit bunch of dedicated people.

I haven't watched this myself (I'm just not that interested right now) but a friend posted it on facebook and I thought it might be relevant to this discussion, such as it is.

Bloomberg Game Changers: Steve Jobs

Yeah, that liver business was one funny piece of business.

Walter Payton was a legendary NFL running back ( and passing game threat ) and very savvy businessman, with fame, money, enjoying great success and prosperity in retirement, yet despite that, could not get a liver transplant in time to save his life.

Apparently you have to be powerful, as well as rich and famous, to make the system work the way you want it to work.

Ed

I'd comment on that, but it would probably activate the threadapult.

Thanks for the link.

Apparently you have to be powerful, as well as rich and famous, to make the system work the way you want it to work.

Well, sure being rich helps, that procedure is extremely expensive.

However no matter how rich or famous you are - The liver has to be a match first and that is the top most number one on the list. Without a match you don't get it no matter what your status is.

What we don't know was there other matches for this liver ? ?
If so then theres other spectrums to look at as well. For example at the other end of the social status - I mean you give a healthy liver to a "Gang Banger" who lost his in a gun shoot up? ? or give it to someone who can change the world?