Get a grip? I'll have to consult Christine--although I am coming down with the grippe.
Irony is tough, as is satire, even down and dirty sarcasm. All of 'em require knowledge of some sort. So if I say, "Boy, today sure was a beautiful day," whether it's sarcastic or not depends on your knowing what kind of day it really was. Dramatic irony depends on the audience knowing something that the character does not know. Shakespeare's good at that. So at the end of 3.7 in <i>Lear</i> we see Cornwall and Regan gouge out Gloucester's eyes; in the next scene, as act 4 begins, we hear Gloucester's good son, Edgar, who doesn't know what's happened to his father, say that "The lamentable change is from the best; / The worst returns to laughter." Not one to lose out on the moment, Shakespeare then has the blind, blood-dripping Gloucester enter. Edgar sees him and recognizes the irony of his cheerful expectation that the universe is a sort of comedy waiting to break out: "O gods! Who is't can say 'I am at the worst'?"
Now that is irony.
_________________________ MACTECHubi dolor ibi digitus
99% of American citizens could give a f (_) ck less about this entire conversation. This is nothing more than abortion, religion, and taxes - frivolous talk for politicians and stupid people who blindly support their preferred political party on any given topic.
If you're not in the military, you should have no care or input about this. If you're not showering with someone who is gay (and you are straight) then you should not have care or input on the topic.
Everyone else is just looking to argue with someone and be deemed the winner. Pure and simple. If you blame republicans, you're an idiot. If you blame democrats, you're an idiot. Blame yourselves for caring about a subject that in no way affects you, yet you put so much weight and importance on it because your political party tells you to.
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JC JD. That's some pretty harsh crap man. You've made three posts today and out of those this thread and this one you've slammed. Have those Windows machines you've been stuck on got you wired? Or have you just forgotten your tumultuous roots here? I know you mentioned you were going to be too busy to participate much. If forum life no longer suits you for now I get it, but maybe you should consider bowing out and let the gang have their fun.
Just IMHO. Glad to see you're busy and employed though.
JD is oft times tactless and even brutal with his replies.
But you know, I didn't feel insulted. It is just his way. Doesn't mean it was NOT insulting to a few, some, most [ smile]. He's been here forever and I know of others I consider just a brutal, harsh, mean, etc. with responses at times.
I think moderators do a good job here. But things I object to [sex related, bodily functions, private manipulations of ones own body for enjoyment, etc.] get a pass as "acceptable" forum discussions. So just because sometimes people speak their own opinions and run thru here with "verbal shotguns" is not cause for moderation. Again, it is just my opinion. If such things go on for a time and appear to be creating a mob riot thread, then time to put a foot down or close it, I suppose.
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