If you are bewilder, thats really no fault of our own.
flummoxed <-- what you?

Get a grip? I'll have to consult Christine--although I am coming down with the grippe.

Irony is tough, as is satire, even down and dirty sarcasm. All of 'em require knowledge of some sort. So if I say, "Boy, today sure was a beautiful day," whether it's sarcastic or not depends on your knowing what kind of day it really was. Dramatic irony depends on the audience knowing something that the character does not know. Shakespeare's good at that. So at the end of 3.7 in <i>Lear</i> we see Cornwall and Regan gouge out Gloucester's eyes; in the next scene, as act 4 begins, we hear Gloucester's good son, Edgar, who doesn't know what's happened to his father, say that "The lamentable change is from the best; / The worst returns to laughter." Not one to lose out on the moment, Shakespeare then has the blind, blood-dripping Gloucester enter. Edgar sees him and recognizes the irony of his cheerful expectation that the universe is a sort of comedy waiting to break out: "O gods! Who is't can say 'I am at the worst'?"

Now that is irony.

JC JD. That's some pretty harsh crap man. You've made three posts today and out of those this thread and this one you've slammed. Have those Windows machines you've been stuck on got you wired? Or have you just forgotten your tumultuous roots here? I know you mentioned you were going to be too busy to participate much. If forum life no longer suits you for now I get it, but maybe you should consider bowing out and let the gang have their fun.

Just IMHO. Glad to see you're busy and employed though.

YoYo

I agree, I may need to re read it another 5 times.

Reboot
JD has his points - Sometimes it is better just to let it pass under the bridge - instead of always trying to be a Dam.

Just my opinion, the waters (treads) could flow farther and faster.

You'd better re-read his post, he insulted us all.

I know and thats just JD, meanwhile the rest of us insult each other - go figure

Or maybe just insults to me

Are you replying we are all brain washed by the media ? DADT is an important topic to discuss as it affects maybe some people in this website.

JD is oft times tactless and even brutal with his replies.

But you know, I didn't feel insulted. It is just his way. Doesn't mean it was NOT insulting to a few, some, most [ smile]. He's been here forever and I know of others I consider just a brutal, harsh, mean, etc. with responses at times.

I think moderators do a good job here. But things I object to [sex related, bodily functions, private manipulations of ones own body for enjoyment, etc.] get a pass as "acceptable" forum discussions. So just because sometimes people speak their own opinions and run thru here with "verbal shotguns" is not cause for moderation. Again, it is just my opinion. If such things go on for a time and appear to be creating a mob riot thread, then time to put a foot down or close it, I suppose.

We all have things to which we object.


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Re Gizmo spraying the room: the guy was venting. He was frustrated - the rant says more about him and his impatience than it does any of us. Nice return serve by Poly.

I don't know that the world will change because of this thread's existence, but if we can't discuss these and other topics, what's the freakin' point of these forums in the first place?

Carry on.