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#536660 - 09/23/10 01:48 AM Re: Ask Mr. McCain [Re: KateSorensen]
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They just don't know it!

BINGO
Hence don't ask don't tell
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#536661 - 09/23/10 01:49 AM Re: Ask Mr. McCain [Re: garyW]
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Not sure if your link is Bullshiit? ?
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#536663 - 09/23/10 01:56 AM Re: Ask Mr. McCain [Re: KateSorensen]
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Originally Posted By: KateSorensen


Military Times link said in part:

“I think a lot of people are,” Lacy said. “In the field environment, you’re in very close proximity to one another. The fact that someone could be openly gay could exacerbate stress on teams and small units when you’re already at a high stress level.”

However, 71 percent of respondents said they would continue to serve if the policy was overturned."

The other link said that 71 percent of Americans polled wanted DADT overturned!!


Now our representatives in Washington are not listening to us cause they didn't pass that bill this week.


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Finally someone with some sense of what is at the issue - Thanks Kate.

Now consider
Than in time of war only say 15 to 20% are at (front line conditions) - the rest are support and counting the civilian support as well.

So 71% of respondents have never been in close quarters with gays -- well I should say that a large number of the 71% have never been aside from basic training.
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#536673 - 09/23/10 02:39 AM Re: Ask Mr. McCain [Re: carp]
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Originally Posted By: carp

Finally someone with some sense of what is at the issue - Thanks Kate.

Now consider
Than in time of war only say 15 to 20% are at (front line conditions) - the rest are support and counting the civilian support as well.

So 71% of respondents have never been in close quarters with gays -- well I should say that a large number of the 71% have never been aside from basic training.


I'm going to arrest you for abuse of percents. You cannot do what you just did to numbers.

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#536677 - 09/23/10 02:48 AM Re: Ask Mr. McCain [Re: polymerase]
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I swear, when I think I am taking a opposing point with Carp's discussion, I end up supporting him [in his eyes and way of thinking].

He could probably convince me the world is flat!! or have me wondering if I am possibly incorrect in my belief that it is shaped like a football, heh, heh.


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#536678 - 09/23/10 02:53 AM Re: Ask Mr. McCain [Re: polymerase]
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LOL

Just throwing out numbers that seeming everyone else throw's out. After all any survey has a margin of error.

Again
The military as a whole, does not have a problem with gays - just concerns about close quarter conditions.
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#536681 - 09/23/10 03:05 AM Re: Ask Mr. McCain [Re: carp]
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Empirical data and statistics ... bleh! (Like ClimateGate) who needs science when truthiness is a beacon of logic and reasoning.

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#536689 - 09/23/10 03:29 AM Re: Ask Mr. McCain [Re: garyW]
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I dunno
But if I was that Dino I would chose what I eat.

Like everyone here knows that I have many many gay friends - not gay myself either, and they never came across as to pass me to the other side.

I am not against gays - just saying how the military feels about it. <-- end that crap now. I mean attacks on me.

I would like to see the Military own surveys and not some trump up shiit.
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#536696 - 09/23/10 04:09 AM Re: Ask Mr. McCain [Re: carp]
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The FACT that 100% of Senate Republicans voted no -- filibustered -- the defense appropriations bill to make a political stand against any Obama accomplishment. GOP senators that had favored repeal of DADT voted to kill repeal of it. That's 100% GOP Senate vote to filibuster funding troops in wartime too, that's how much they hate our President. And after they voted Sen. Chambliss staffer posts online "“all faggots must die.”. That is not trump up shiit. That's 100% messed up.

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#536698 - 09/23/10 04:30 AM Re: Ask Mr. McCain [Re: carp]
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Originally Posted By: carp

I would like to see the Military own surveys and not some trump up shiit.


This is close to the wording of the bill. It does not actually repeal DADT but allows the military to make up its own mine when their study is complete. Since everyone knows the military is OK with repealing and the study is going to find out that the foot soldier doesn't mind either makes it pretty much a repeal of DADT.

That makes the filibustering described by Gary even more deceitful/

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