I'm on board with the "What is a CD, what is Toast?" crowd. with servers and hosting and hard drives costing 189 bucks for two terrabytes (is that 200 CDs worth) I haven't touched a CD much less burned one in six years.
They're slow. They make my laptop big (why I have an MBA). They are going the way of the floppy, soon I hope.
For those of us who aren't using it to archive data but to distribute it... CDs/DVDs are still the cheaper solution. When possible I just deliver the product via the web... but some clients want a physical form.
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Eventually they will figure out that "physical form" does not mean safer or "more real". I've been handing out data since 1985. Researchers want to own the raw data.
1986-1992 Raw data equaled a printed out sheet of paper. 1989-1994 Raw data equaled a floppy disk. 1993-2001 Raw data was a gamish, Zip-Drives, CDs, thumb drives. I once bought one hundred thumb drives. Oops, two weeks later they were a tenth the cost. 2000-2010 Raw data equals their data in an account on my servers which I promise to hold in perpetuity. Those servers hold all data created since 1991. A request for archive data comes in and we move it to their active account.
If someone asked for a "physical form" like a CD I would tell them they can have it in their account for free within an hour or they are going to pay a $500 access fee and it will take ten days. They go the free route. All data on servers is triple redundancy because hard drives are so cheap.
I do have a slight problem with a project running the last 13 months. It has filled up 5 TB of drives in that time. But buying an Xserve with 3X 2 TB drives might be better than anything else. If the project dumps I end up with a nice Xserve that someone else paid for.
I haven't burned anything is quite some time, and for the limited burning I might do in the future, I think the OS utility would be more than enough. I do have some older version of Toast on my HD, but at this point it's just taking up space.
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Let me try again... I have to give some clients a cd or a thumb drive. Cds are cheaper.
Eventually they will figure out that "physical form" does not mean safer or "more real".
It's not that they think anything like that. It's more along the lines of not understanding technology/computers. Some clients are uncomfortable finding the files and using FTP apps. A disc... well, that they understand.
Not everyone's a scientist.
I remember you making this prediction about 2 years ago.... Anyways, when what you are saying becomes a reality, then Toast will become obsolete and this thread will be moot. Till then....
It appears Apple is dumping iDVD in the next version of iLife (according to rumors), so Toast might be the only affordable option for adding simple chapter graphics and affordably burning a DVD playable on a TV.
I love Toast, and find it much more flexible (and MUCH faster) than Apple's built-in burner.
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A friend was telling me about a Carolina Wren who fledged some chicks in his shed. Cutest little things. Mom flies through a small hole (where a keyhole used to be) to get inside. If he leaves the door open she still takes the time to fly through the keyhole. Hardwired and hard to change.
We all are like that. Servers and alternatives to the archaic CD abound. I did predict that when I got an MBA and there was a flurry of whining, where is the CD drive!!, that the CD was dead, RIP CD and CD drives resting in heaven next to floppy drives.
But there will be a lot of flying through the keyhole because that is where the comfortable pipeline to get things done resides.
 wren, not warbler. The warblers have cleared out for the time being.
Scenario 1) You spend endless hours, don't know what you pay yourself but it's got to be a couple of bucks) burning your client's data to CD. The client now has her data on a disk which will be as obsolete as Zip drives in three years. You pay for Toast, the CD player (OK they come with most slow computers for now) and the platters. (Yes, wicked cheap but if you are only counting that as your expenditure you are way off base.)
Scenario 2) you spend considerably less time transferring to the USB thumb drive. In fact why not create the stuff right on there and drag and drop stuff at will deleting as you go so the transfer is really done in the act of creating? Last second change demanded of client? No problemo, I knew it all along.
Client gets a USB 2 thumb drive that is much more useful than a CD. She can pour it over onto her hard drives but she also ends up with a thumb drive with your logo on it. This gives her a warm and fuzzy feeling about you. She may even hand it back to you when repeat business occurs and she says "fill it up big boy."
If you are giving your data away and a dollar a gigabyte extra will break you then you need to come up with a new financial plan.
Or keep flying through the keyhole of the open door. The bird's name is Jane. Johnny knocked her up. ;-)
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