#528954 - 07/09/1011:34 AMRe: 50% off
[Re: ChrisN]
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It's hard to have intelligent discussion with all the dogmatic BP defensive bleating that was going on.
My perception was the exact opposite - irrational framing and vilification of BP against all the facts. The attacks on Tony Hayward on an isolated quotation in deliberate ignorance of context and everything else he has said has been particularly shameful in my opinion.
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He can't. Because there is no such post. In this or other related threads. I will continue to point out that he has totally nationalized the issue, and his whining in previous threads about "anti-British sentiments" bears that claim out. Something else that is patently false, because there have been zero anti-British sentiments expressed. And no criticism of Tony Hayward has had a connection to his nationality. I've referred to him as Tony Baloney because he's a bullsh!tter, not an Englishman.
This whole defense is based on an imagined national prejudice. Absurd.
#528961 - 07/09/1001:31 PMRe: 50% off
[Re: steveg]
keymaker
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It's what they haven't said that the problem. The only person who has said anything in this thread to implicate the other parties is me. Everyone's changing their tune alright at the last minute because they suddenly realised they could be made to look like a complete arse when the hectoring stops and evidence and reason take over in a court of law. But the endless vindictive hounding of Tony Hayward from Obama downwards and the pass that everyone else gets because they happen to be American speaks for itself.
#528967 - 07/09/1003:17 PMRe: 50% off
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Everyone's changing their tune alright at the last minute
I suggest your recollection of what people have written here is faulty ... I'll make it easier for you: instead of providing a link to a post here where someone lays 100% of the blame exclusively on BP, I'll accept a link to even a single post here where someone gives a complete 100% pass to the subcontractors or even to the government ...
Until then, I'm not convinced you don't have one of these sitting next to your computer ;-)
#528999 - 07/10/1001:36 AMRe: 50% off
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I suggest your recollection of what people have written here is faulty
Nice Try - we're talking about what people haven't written.
Unless you claim to read minds, the meaning of what people *haven't* written is completely your guesswork; you're currently arguing against not what what people have actually said but with something you've made-up in your own head -- pretty much the definition of a straw-man ...
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Oh go on, give us a link... I tell you what I'll make it easy for you - here's the link <--- you're having trouble with.
And the circle is complete ;-)
Since you can't actually point to what you're arguing against, I'll just stand over here on the sidelines for now and see how further this really can go with no actual content ;-)
keymaker
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I don't find any of that very convincing... everyone started trying jump in the shared liability bandwagon at the last minute having only previously attacked BP... or "British Petroleum".
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