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#517053 - 05/06/10 05:42 AM Re: Jobs has some explaining to do to the FEDS! [Re: Antonio]
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Well not really Antonio , there more to it than just , shooting for quality apps and a bash against Adobe Flash , which Apple also claims that Flash has many Security Holes .

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At least on the front of using the one size fits all tool.


Heres an article from Unisys a Top Dog IT security company , check out their video .

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The development time for this app? A weekend. Underwood credits this quick turnaround to the iPhone Software Development Kit (SDK), which gives developers maximum functionality with minimum effort. The SDK’s Map Kit provides familiar online mapping features, while the UI Kit ensures a consistent look and feel that helps users get up and running quickly. “It’s exciting not only for the development team, but for the management team to see so many new opportunities to meet client needs,” Underwood says.


Much more than just flash - It is about the whole environment to develop in - Not for Adobe to write apps thats a Hedge Hog with security holes galore .
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#517066 - 05/06/10 10:26 AM Re: Jobs has some explaining to do to the FEDS! [Re: carp]
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No offense intended, but I think you've both taken my points and ran with them a bit. I'm not looking at this purely from the view of an "Apple vs Adobe" standoff, as the implications are further reaching than that, and there's already enough focus on that portion of it. I happen to use products from both companies regularly, and can find glaring strengths and weaknesses in both. (As merely an elaboration to that, the only underlying code I trust is that I write myself, and only because I wrote it myself and know it- which is to say, nothing I write is perfect either. There's really no such thing. As such, I find it's better not to buy into any camp's kool-aid or form strict allegiances.)

Coincidentally, I'm moving to the Android platform this summer, away from iLife apps and the iPhone, toward Open platforms and Open Source products (save for OS X). They're not perfect, either, but have enough polish nowadays to be considered seriously as viable solutions. That they're open means I have access to the source code and know exactly what I'm getting. If I feel I can change or contribute anything, I'm able to do that, too. That said, they're still polished enough, interface and feature wise, for the everyday user. (We're talking projects like Songbird, VLC, Max, Audacity, Picasa, etc...)

As for the Adobe Creative Suite in particular, as bloated and overpriced as it is, it's still the best option for what it does. I can't see anything replacing them anytime soon. Save for Dreamheaver, if you're publishing or animating (2D), it's the best game in town.

I do think Apple, for it's ease of use and support, has a good thing going with iLife and the iPhone, because they do have such tight control over both (save for the issues with iTunes randomly eating people's music, which is part of what's prompted my move). As a result of that control, however, it's going to be somewhat limited, and it's going to lock in both the developer and the end user. Ultimately, whether or not you're willing to sacrifice one set of attributes for the other is a very personal choice.
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#517102 - 05/06/10 04:53 PM Re: Jobs has some explaining to do to the FEDS! [Re: Antonio]
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Sure, being able to inspect the code is nice (if you are technically adept enough for that to mean anything) …but Apple is solving that trust issue another way. The fact that apps have to be funneled through Apple to get onto my device means I have very little to worry about when it comes to security.

Until the "things I want to do but can't" outweigh the "things I can do safely, and easily" there is no way I'll ever leave Apple. Right now it's not even close. I seriously have nothing that I feel I'm compromising on. My interests just don't lie with the things Apple has chosen to ignore.
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#517105 - 05/06/10 05:18 PM Re: Jobs has some explaining to do to the FEDS! [Re: zwei]
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I can do things just as safely and easily with the other options listed as with the iLife suite. The difference is, I don't have to worry about music in my library suddenly disappearing, because no one's in control of any of it besides me.
And I like having more options. You don't need to be technically adept for either of those things- I only meant that as an aside.
As I said, and you seem to have rehashed in your second statement, it depends on which set of options you're willing to sacrifice for the other. In either case, choice is good.
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#517107 - 05/06/10 05:22 PM Re: Jobs has some explaining to do to the FEDS! [Re: Antonio]
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How did music in your library disappear?
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#517112 - 05/06/10 05:46 PM Re: Jobs has some explaining to do to the FEDS! [Re: zwei]
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This has happened more than once over the course of several years. Most recently, the songs were first missing from my iPhone. (I should mention now I sync everything manually- again, I like control of my software and devices, not the other way around. Also, I had not synced before the songs went missing.). Upon seeking to replace the songs on the phone, I then noticed them missing from iTunes on both of my computers, as well. All devices are authorized, though it shouldn't matter, as the tracks were unprotected. This last time around, I contacted iTunes customer support, and they hooked me up with three free downloads, two of which were eaten once again. Luckily, this time, I had my entire music library backed up.

This is a well-known issue. There's lots of info available for digging up via Google. My thought is, no one should be able to have that sort of access to anything on any of my devices, not directly, nor via software, even if it's inadvertent. I don't think the iTunes Music Store purposely decides I'm not authorized to own those (non-DRM) tracks- it's probably a bug. However, that they have the capability to do it is alarming, as far as I'm concerned. Thanks to other available options, I don't have to allow it.
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#517127 - 05/06/10 08:52 PM Re: Jobs has some explaining to do to the FEDS! [Re: Antonio]
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I manually set up what syncs to my iPod/iPad too. (via syncing only specific playlists) …not sure if you are doing something different than that. Everything has been foolproof since day 1. Even when I delete samplers, etc. that I had purchased from the iTunes store it asks if I want to copy them back onto the Mac from my iPod the next time I sync.

Is your iPhone jailbroken? Do you use other software to interact with your iPhone like file browsers or other apps that mess with the songs outside of iTunes? Have you modified any of the iTunes app bundles or plists?

I'm sure there are quite a few instances you can find on google …when you are talking about a product that has millions upon millions of downloads, some crap is going to go wrong somewhere. And it's more likely to happen when the product is being used outside of normal conditions.
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#517144 - 05/06/10 10:17 PM Re: Jobs has some explaining to do to the FEDS! [Re: zwei]
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I've not done anything which would have such an effect on iTunes. Any other apps I have to interact with my iPhone don't arbitrarily mess with anything in the filesystem. Also, it wouldn't explain the songs also disappearing from my iTunes Library.

Regardless of the conditions, when a product gives an entity of any sort, besides me, the ability to add, delete or edit anything on my computer without my explicit say-so, it's time for me to find another product. The ability is there. They have removed an app or two purposefully, at AT&T's behest, and Amazon has done it with books on the Kindle, so this is nothing which should surprise anyone, really.

If I had performed some form of modification which results in this sort of miscreant behavior, the outcome would be much the same (but I would be pointing at myself instead of Apple/iTunes wink ).
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#517467 - 05/09/10 11:23 AM Re: Jobs has some explaining to do to the FEDS! [Re: Nana]
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It sounds that jobs is just plain selfish and does not want anybody else to get a break in this industry.J

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#517558 - 05/10/10 01:44 AM Re: Jobs has some explaining to do to the FEDS! [Re: musicalmarv7]
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http://jeffcroft.com/blog/2010/may/08/android-flash-demo-flashcamp-seattle/

Sounds like the Flash I know.
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