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#516138 - 04/26/10 11:38 PM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: keymaker]
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Let's just say that wordplay is not your strong suit.
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#516141 - 04/27/10 01:20 AM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: Celandine]
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And I see The Groupie will accompany His Minus on the road trip — head thrust out the car window, tongue and ears flapping in the wind, spittle dripping down the side of the door. ARF!
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#516146 - 04/27/10 01:48 AM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: keymaker]
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I never said it wasn't "a standard term' only that it had a dual meaning.


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words like 'gay' and 'queer' are informal alternatives




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#516151 - 04/27/10 02:12 AM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: steveg]
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Glances at MY avatar. smile
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Go Nutz, Chuckles,


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#516158 - 04/27/10 02:46 AM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: Celandine]
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I glances at your avatar, too. The I turns to stone. sick
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#516159 - 04/27/10 03:19 AM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: steveg]
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Figured you were talking to YOUR Groupie. smile
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#516165 - 04/27/10 04:29 AM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: keymaker]
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No I meant that words have meanings even if those to whom they apply don't like 'em... Peter Tatchell for example considers himself neither gay nor homosexual but 'queer' when in fact he happens to be all three. laugh

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#516166 - 04/27/10 04:41 AM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: six_of_one]
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Oh I see... no informal words can be standard words... so 'Brit' for example means 'Briton' just as 'straight' for example means 'heterosexual', amongst other things. laugh

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#516180 - 04/27/10 11:04 AM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: Celandine]
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More assumptions. To be more precise — more incorrect assumptions. You never learn. Never...
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#516195 - 04/27/10 01:58 PM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: keymaker]
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The way that the gay/lesbian community, not to mention the academic community has appropriated "queer" makes the term very different from any of the others in the discussion so far. To be "queer" is to be at odds with dominant discourses, and that doesn't require one to be gay or lesbian. At the last conference I attended, in fact, there was a recurring focus on the very un-queer character of the gay and lesbian community's desire to legalize same-sex marriages. The argument was that marriage buys into the standard social model, and is therefore preeminently not queer. So there were many gay and lesbian members of the Shakespeare scholarly community who were rather conflicted by the difference between their intellectual and their social desires.
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