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#516070 - 04/26/10 01:45 PM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: keymaker]
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No, the technical word for a same sex practitioner is 'homosexual'... words like 'gay' and 'queer' are informal alternatives


The OED apparenly disagrees ...

"— USAGE Gay is now a standard term for ‘homosexual’ [...] lesbian being the standard term for homosexual women."

Last I checked, "standard" =/= "informal alternative"

But do carry on anyways ...

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#516075 - 04/26/10 02:02 PM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: six_of_one]
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I never said it wasn't "a standard term' only that it had a dual meaning.

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#516081 - 04/26/10 03:47 PM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: keymaker]
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Oh yes... Off on another one of your corkscrew logic journeys. Have a nice trip. sick
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#516082 - 04/26/10 03:49 PM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: Celandine]
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I get it. You're your own night-light.
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#516091 - 04/26/10 06:33 PM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: keymaker]
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Huh?

Well, presumably because gays are perceived as persons who happen to be happy and carefree whereas homosexuals are those who indulge in same-sex activities... but I could be wrong... confused

km


Except that the poll states "gays and lesbians", and lesbians are by default homosexuals who indulge in same-sex activities. Except they have boobies.
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#516100 - 04/26/10 07:46 PM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: steveg]
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Oh yes... Off on another one of your corkscrew logic journeys. Have a nice trip. sick

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#516112 - 04/26/10 08:49 PM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: SgtBaxter]
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I think it's pretty simple. "Homosexual" is a generic, medical term. Naturally enough people who don't see themselves as ill because of the sexual choices they make reject the term. So the general term gets split into gays, who are males, and lesbians, who are females, terms that do not have the medical baggage and so aren't objectionable.
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#516122 - 04/26/10 09:40 PM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: yoyo52]
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No it's not a medical term because it's not a medical condition. laugh

km

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#516130 - 04/26/10 10:10 PM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: keymaker]
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It originated as a medical term. Since six-of-one invoked the majesty of the OED, I'll point out that the OED has as the first usage of the term, in 1892, an entry in Krafft-Ebing's Psychophathia Sexualis--sexual psychopathologies. The term is still understood in those terms. But I agree that it is in fact not a disease or a medical condition. Therefore gays and lesbians reject the term because of its etymological pejoration.
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#516133 - 04/26/10 10:40 PM Re: gays vs. homosexuals [Re: yoyo52]
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They can't really reject the term because 'gay' means 'homosexual', amongst other things, so it happens to be correct. laugh

km

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