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#504015 - 12/05/07 05:54 AM Re: NUDC 5.3.2 beta (26NOV2007) and Leopard [Re: Macboy4u]
John Wallace Offline


Registered: 04/03/07
Posts: 1921
Loc: Columbus, Ohio
Originally Posted By: "John Wallace"

Originally Posted By: "Hikerdave"

I don't understand this, unsanity, the makers of Menu Extra Enabler, says that MEE does not work in 10.5.X. Why are you having your software install other software that is known not to work?

When Leopard came out, I corresponded directly with the author of MEE and was told the following:

Quote:

The current version actually works [with Leopard]. It just needs to have special perms...[rules omitted]...As long as MEE follows those rules, it works great.

I'm not sure why their website hasn't been updated to reflect the above. I've got an email into them to make sure that what they told me when Leopard was released is still valid.


I received confirmation from Unsanity that MEE works with Leopard as long as developers follow new rules (which our 5.3.2 beta does). Their latest email to me read:

Quote:

I've not seen any other reports of it not working [on Leopard]. Some third party developers are shipping MEE now with their menu extras, and I haven't heard reports of anything from them (good or bad).

We will be releasing an updated version, once Smart Crash Reports is ready for 10.5, but that will have the same exact binary (with different version info) for MEE itself and an installer that sets the perms correctly.
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#504016 - 12/06/07 09:00 PM Re: NUDC 5.3.2 beta (26NOV2007) and Leopard [Re: Macboy4u]
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Registered: 04/25/07
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Loc: Denver, Colorado USA
Originally Posted By: "John Wallace"

Originally Posted By: "davebarnes"

But, when I click on it, I get the SBOD for 15 seconds before the menu pops down.

Are the contents of the menu correct?
Does the spinning cursor happen every time you click or just the first time?


Contents are correct.
Every time.
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#504017 - 12/07/07 02:30 AM Re: NUDC 5.3.2 beta (26NOV2007) and Leopard [Re: Macboy4u]
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If the timing is consistent (say 15 seconds) we're probably running across an AppleEvent timing out. Thanks for the info! I've updated the info in our bug tracking system so we can get that nailed down. (It's on our system as issue #NUDC-15)
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#504018 - 12/11/07 03:58 PM Re: NUDC 5.3.2 beta (26NOV2007) and Leopard [Re: Macboy4u]
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Here's a new issue i'm finding with QC..When I go to FIND a contact, the functionality doesn't work. Also the COPY and OPEN buttons don't become active. However creating a NEW contact from within QC does work.

I'm also finding that if the NC app is open, QC is causing it to quit unexpectedly.

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#504019 - 12/11/07 07:15 PM Re: NUDC 5.3.2 beta (26NOV2007) and Leopard [Re: Macboy4u]
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Loc: in Columbus, OH.
Originally Posted By: "marc01"

Here's a new issue i'm finding with QC..When I go to FIND a contact, the functionality doesn't work. Also the COPY and OPEN buttons don't become active. However creating a NEW contact from within QC does work.

I'm also finding that if the NC app is open, QC is causing it to quit unexpectedly.


Marc - is this something you are seeing that's is new to the 5.3.2 beta on Leopard? In other words, it worked last week but now you see that QC's Find isn't working, that QC seems to cause NC to quit if it was open, etc.?

- Mark
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#504020 - 12/12/07 03:23 PM Re: NUDC 5.3.2 beta (26NOV2007) and Leopard [Re: Macboy4u]
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Registered: 05/12/07
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Hi Mark..

Yes.. this is all regarding the functioning of QC and 5.3.2 (since QC wasn't working in 5.3.1) So basically QC is completely non-functioning except for creating a new record. the find feature doesn't work at all.

Here's another weird bug.. when I got to create a new contact, it defaults to PERSONAL category. When i go to the PREF in Now Contact, and switch the DEFAULT CATEGORY to shared in Creating Contacts, while it displays the SHARED CONTACTS as the option selected it doesn't "stick". Actually, in the pop down menu of category choices, PRIVATE is still checked.

Very odd (and frustrating)

Marc

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#504021 - 12/18/07 05:30 AM Re: NUDC 5.3.2 beta (26NOV2007) and Leopard [Re: Macboy4u]
Bill Davides Offline


Registered: 11/20/07
Posts: 14
On the subject of the menu extras (QuickContact, QuickDay) I've installed 5.3.2b3 on 3 computers, and on my wife's computer we get no MenuExtras.

That is the only computer of the bunch that has a Stuffit MagicMenu icon in the menu bar, so I may need to see if Stuffit put in one of these things that causes all the problems. The computer is 2 years old so I don't even remember how the MagicMenu got there.

Sigh. I guess I'll go back and start reading this thread from the start.

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#504022 - 12/18/07 11:59 AM Re: NUDC 5.3.2 beta (26NOV2007) and Leopard [Re: Macboy4u]
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Registered: 04/03/07
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Loc: Columbus, Ohio
Originally Posted By: "Bill Davides"

That is the only computer of the bunch that has a Stuffit MagicMenu icon in the menu bar, so I may need to see if Stuffit put in one of these things that causes all the problems. The computer is 2 years old so I don't even remember how the MagicMenu got there.

There is a folder on your computer called /Library/Input Managers. The permissions need to be set in there correctly. The NUDC 5.3.2b3 properly sets them for the Menu Extra Enabler, but Magic Menu's permissions could be wrong and that may be affecting menu extra loading. You can correct this by going into Terminal.app and typing:

sudo chmod 755 /Library/InputManagers/
sudo chmod -R 755 "/Library/InputManagers/*"
sudo chown -R root:admin "/Library/InputManagers/*"

It's possible that the MagicMenu files are installed in that user's ~/Library/InputManagers folder. If so, let me know. The perms and ownership would need to be set correctly there as well.
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#504023 - 12/18/07 06:50 PM Re: NUDC 5.3.2 beta (26NOV2007) and Leopard [Re: Macboy4u]
Bill Davides Offline


Registered: 11/20/07
Posts: 14
I can check the permissions when I get home.

I did compare /Library/Input Managers/ folder on all three computers and they are all identical, i.e., the only thing there appears to have been installed at 7pm last night when I ran 5.3.2b3 on all 3 computers. There were no other input manager items present.

Bill

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#504024 - 12/19/07 12:55 AM Re: NUDC 5.3.2 beta (26NOV2007) and Leopard [Re: Macboy4u]
Bill Davides Offline


Registered: 11/20/07
Posts: 14
John,

No luck on the wife's computer. I ran the permissions changes and still get no QuickDay or QuickContact in menu bar.

Terminal shows:

drwxr-xr-x@ 4 root admin 136 Dec 17 19:34 Menu Extra Enabler


I toggled prefs to show in menu bar on/off and back to on and still no menu bar icons on the MacBook Pro. I do have them on the MacBook and the iMac. All machines running 10.5.1.

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