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#501321 - 05/10/07 06:01 PM iPhone Use BEFORE Nighthawk release [Re: Papa]
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I and several of my clients plan on getting an iPhone when it's released in June. However, Nighthawk will not be ready by then. So, the question is, how can we continue to use the present versions of Now Contact and Datebook with the iPhone? Is there some way, or some temporary utility we could use, to sync the two together? And if not to sync, then to at least do a one-way transfer from the computer with the now databases to the iPhone?

Much thanks.

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#501322 - 05/11/07 11:40 AM Re: iPhone Use BEFORE Nighthawk release [Re: Papa]
tntjr Offline


Registered: 04/07/07
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Originally Posted By: "XcellentMac"

I and several of my clients plan on getting an iPhone when it's released in June. However, Nighthawk will not be ready by then. So, the question is, how can we continue to use the present versions of Now Contact and Datebook with the iPhone? Is there some way, or some temporary utility we could use, to sync the two together? And if not to sync, then to at least do a one-way transfer from the computer with the now databases to the iPhone?

Much thanks.



I just came for a visit to see if there has been a release date announced, but can't find it. If memory serves, wasn't it promised for Spring? Is June still spring? I realize these things often take longer than you think and delays are commonplace, and I'd prefer to have a product w/ the bugs worked out. For that, I will wait patiently. Question is whether a release date ha been announced. Thanks.
Tim

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#501323 - 05/11/07 03:15 PM Re: iPhone Use BEFORE Nighthawk release [Re: Papa]
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Registered: 04/26/07
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Loc: Georgetown, DE USA
Originally Posted By: "tntjr"

Is June still spring?

Up until the 21st Mr. Green
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#501324 - 05/11/07 03:34 PM Re: iPhone Use BEFORE Nighthawk release [Re: Papa]
John Wallace Offline


Registered: 04/03/07
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Mark and I are working on our roadmap document now. Mark's a bit of a planning nut (thank goodness!) so we want to make sure it gives a good reflection of where we're going and when.
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#501325 - 05/15/07 11:10 AM Re: iPhone Use BEFORE Nighthawk release [Re: Papa]
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Well, at first glance it appears that using iSync to connect to the iPhone would be the conduit used to move stuff from NUD/C 5 data to the iPhone.... So theoretically that would be the way to move NUD/C 5 data to the iPhone.

I'm personally hoping that there will be a NightHawk iPhone edition. That way, there's no need to use iSync.

http://www.tuaw.com/2007/05/11/apple-wrestles-with-3rd-party-iphone-apps/

http://www.tech.co.uk/computing/mac/news/apple-iphone-jobs-spills-more-secrets?articleid=1431998781


If the Palm can get thousands of third party programs working on the PalmOS, why not have a brand new cottage industry for the iPhone with third pary developers creating multitudes of apps for the iPhone?

I remembered the good old days of HyperCard where there was bound to be a program to suit your needs.

I'd imagine that NightHawk would have to be written to help preserve battery (less write functions) and less polling the internet for data.... Also a smaller user interface for the iPhone's screen....

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#501326 - 05/15/07 04:14 PM Re: iPhone Use BEFORE Nighthawk release [Re: Papa]
hmurchison Offline


Registered: 05/12/07
Posts: 11
Loc: Seattle
Apple may not offer on onramp for 3rd parties just yet but undoubtedly they will eventually
open the platform.

When the iPhone ships I hope it has an extensible enough Calendar that can talk to most Mac calendar apps.

eventually we will just run the native application on the iphone.

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#501327 - 05/16/07 06:13 PM Re: iPhone Use BEFORE Nighthawk release [Re: Papa]
deanster Offline


Registered: 05/16/07
Posts: 11
I'm another one in this camp - I'm happy with my Treo and the smooth sync of NUTD/C. I'd really like to move to the iPhone, but can't have it be a pain to keep sync'd with my home and office calendars, which are all on NUTD.

I've purchased a 10-license upgrade to NightHawk, and one of my driving concepts was that it would help support the iPhone transition, but since it now looks like NH is going to be several months later than the iPhone, I need to either wait on the iPhone, or have a solid sync strategy for the current software.

Just so ya know, it's not just Now - I'm also fretful about whether the iPhone will support IMAP IDLE like Chattermail for Treo does, giving me true push from my own IMAP server - I'm loathe to give that up also.

If I can't get iPhone to do push from my server, or sync with my calendar/contacts, that might be a deal killer.

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#501328 - 05/21/07 10:32 PM Re: iPhone Use BEFORE Nighthawk release [Re: Papa]
deanster Offline


Registered: 05/16/07
Posts: 11
A little research reveals that iPhone will do both IMAP IDLE and the newer and more-compact Push-IMAP.

Leaving only my calendar and contact manager as an open question - I'd really appreciate some guidance on the best way to sync Now via iSync...

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#501329 - 05/31/07 03:32 AM Re: iPhone Use BEFORE Nighthawk release [Re: Papa]
wilsonng Offline


Registered: 04/09/07
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Loc: Guam, U.S.A.
Well, it looks like Apple is looking for a way to open up the iPhone in the near future....

http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/iphone-to-get-third-party-apps/

I would imagine that the third party apps would have to be officially licensed and endorsed by Apple to run on the iPhone....

The app would have to follow certain guidelines such as programming the app to follow more energy conservative measures (not polling the internet as frequently as its desktop version would) or other measures such as not being able to screw with other data files on the iPhone or install haxies or OS hacks that would modify OS behavior....

Games being developed for the Xbox 360, PS3, and Wii have to be certified as well to run on their platforms.

It would probably be easier for the developers since all the iPhones would have the same exact hardware specs and OS. It's harder to develop NightHawk for Mac and Windows 'cuz there are a variety factors to support such as different operating systems, different CPUs (G3, G4, G5, Pentiums), and different operating systems (Win XP, Vista, Panther, Tiger, Leopard).

The developer knows what is on the iPhone and develop for that hardware/OS set..... This is why it is easier to develop for game consoles as well.... All PS3s run pretty much the same. All Xbox 360s run the same. And all Wiis run the same. The only notable change would be the internal hard drive size....

So let's hope Apple can open up the iPhone sooner rather than later... Very Happy

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#501330 - 06/02/07 07:44 PM Re: iPhone Use BEFORE Nighthawk release [Re: Papa]
John Wallace Offline


Registered: 04/03/07
Posts: 1921
Loc: Columbus, Ohio
Originally Posted By: "wilsonng"

Well, it looks like Apple is looking for a way to open up the iPhone in the near future....
So let's hope Apple can open up the iPhone sooner rather than later... Very Happy


Ahhhhh. That would be sweet!
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