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#498903 - 03/11/10 12:00 AM Re: Mac Pro Line ? [Re: MacBozo]
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A floppy would be so slow the computer would lose interest. grin

I still have a couple of USB floppy and Zip drives laying around. Every once in a while someone needs data from old media.
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#498913 - 03/11/10 12:17 AM Mac Pro Line ? NEWS !! [Re: Reboot]
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MacPro coming Tuesday March 16th?

Wow that'd be nice !! grin
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#498928 - 03/11/10 12:43 AM Re: Mac Pro Line ? [Re: Reboot]
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"In regards to 64 bit and OpenCL, do you feel that the speed jumps of the chips are really minimal as compared to what the proper written application can do?"

Chip makers don't increase clock speed too much any longer as a way to get the best performance out of the processors. They are putting more and more cores into their processors instead.
But you know that.

I am not sure what performance technology will add the biggest performance boost for applications; 64-bit, OpenCL, or Grand Central Dispatch.
With 64-bit technology, applications can address more memory.
With OpenCL, applications can tap into the very vast power of the gpu processor.
With Grand Central Dispatch, applications can make better use of the multi-core processors.
Can you picture the power of an application that uses all three technologies?!
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#498966 - 03/11/10 03:02 AM Re: Mac Pro Line ? [Re: Clark]
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Can you picture the power of an application that uses all three technologies?!


No but I know one that doesn't use any !!


Windows !! laugh


(actually there is a 64 bit version, it's called BSOD express ) wink
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#499640 - 03/15/10 09:09 PM Re: Mac Pro Line ? NEWS !! [Re: DLC]
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I hope tomorrow is THE DAY.
Have you decided what processors and video card you want yet?
I know, kinda hard when you don't know what is available.

I may be wrong but I thing there is only one Intel Core i7 processor coming out tomorrow. It has 6 cores.
If so, then one Mac Pro will have one 6 core processor and another Mac Pro will have two 6 core processors.
I don't know how they will come up with a third Mac Pro.

Will you go with the standard video card or the BTO high-end video card?
If you have more money than god, you'll go with the workstation video card.
And take a chance, let me know where you live.
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#499651 - 03/16/10 02:03 AM Re: Mac Pro Line ? NEWS !! [Re: Clark]
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Depends upon the specs of the cards available and the price differential.

I'd like to get something <$2500, but even if that's possible tomorrow I may wait until June and the Back to School summer sale. I just want to have my options laid out to analyze.

I may also want to buy another One to One session, I have several projects that I could accelerate with Professional guidance and input.

Hope you're right Clark !! wink
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#499710 - 03/16/10 03:56 PM Re: Mac Pro Line ? NEWS !! [Re: DLC]
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I saw where someone posted on another forum that they doubt Apple will take down the site during this iPad pre-order time.

So far nothing is showing up at Apple.com

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#499714 - 03/16/10 06:36 PM Re: Mac Pro Line ? NEWS !! [Re: John Rougeux]
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"I saw where someone posted on another forum that they doubt Apple will take down the site during this iPad pre-order time."

Yep, all kinds of rumors like that.
Same web site has people guessing that April 4th will be the new Mac Pro launch date because Apple will concentrate on iPad's pre-orders and the April 3rd iPad launch date.

My opinion for what it is worth (which is nothing)...
Everything is just rumor and conversation. Apple isn't going to let iPad get in the way of a Mac Pro launch.
The iPad is more important right now but that doesn't mean Apple can't quietly announce the new Mac Pro.
Apple doesn't use much fanfare for announcing new iMacs and Mac Pros anyway.
I think that is why Apple bailed out of MacWorld San Fran.
Apple doesn't want to announce new products on someone else's terms.*
The good news is all of the Mac Pro components should be in place and the Mac Pro should come out any day now.
No value in trying to guess when.

* But at the same time it still angers me that Apple pulled out of MacWorld Boston and MacWorld San Fran.
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#499726 - 03/16/10 10:27 PM Re: Mac Pro Line ? [Re: Clark]
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Chip makers don't increase clock speed too much any longer as a way to get the best performance out of the processors. They are putting more and more cores into their processors instead.
But you know that.


Yes, but the Core iX series is generally faster than the Core 2 or Core Quad on a clock per clock basis too. The i3's are generally faster than the popular wolfdales were and cheaper to boot. The quad i5 is faster than my Q9450 at stock speed (which is why it's not stock wink )

The new 6 core is going to be a waste of money for most people though.

What pisses me off though is the nomenclature. You have i5 and i7 chips that use the 1156 sockets, and that use the 1366 sockets. I think it should be one or the other, i.e the i5's use the 1156 package and the i7's use the 1366.

Also, the Mac Pros you mentioned were 32 bit because of the OS. The Woodcrests fully support x86-64.
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#499728 - 03/16/10 10:45 PM Re: Mac Pro Line ? [Re: SgtBaxter]
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The new 6 core is going to be a waste of money for most people though.


That's definitely true in most cases... It's mainly for professional use. Many ordinary programs can't use the multi-core and multi -threading and 64 bit that much, if at all. But many professional programs for like video, music mixing, etc can.

However that said, my main reason for even considering one is the ability to expand RAM, internal HDS, and swap out video cards to my liking... the 6 core and CPU speed is just icing on the cake, . . . IF it's not outrageously priced. grin

IF it is, I can live with a quad core 27" iMac. wink
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