#492002 - 01/29/1006:26 PMRe: Where are you following the announcement?
[Re: zwei]
scottyb
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Strange, when I watch Hulu like that, my WebKitPluginAgent is at 0.0% CPU. The Flash Player (Safari Internet plug-in) is the obvious hog, running @ 133%
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i just don't think the iPad can be used to replace a laptop or computer. i think people who try are going to be sorely disappointed.
That is not the market that it is designed to compete in. It's a complimentary device to a full fledged computer. For those of us who want to wander around the house and surf wirelessly at a great price, it fits the bill.
perhaps you know that, but there are other people who wanted to replace an old iBook or Macbook who think this can be that replacement. when it was announced i was giving a presentation to faculty at my U and there was an IT person there. she saw me looking up the Apple announcement after the session and came up to see what it was. we sat and read the Engadget updates and she said her girlfriend was waiting to see what was announced because she needed to replace her old laptop. perhaps they'll figure this out, but i think there will be a lot of people hoping to take the cheap way out and then finding out later that they can't do some of the things they'd hoped they could do (e.g., i suspect that even photo editing will be crummy on the iPad).
#492067 - 01/30/1009:16 AMRe: Where are you following the announcement?
[Re: zwei]
Ben Dover
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Registered: 06/12/09
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Loc: Sunnyvale, CA, USA
You would think they'd offload to the GPU, or else multiple industries might start seeing/framing this as Flash loses them money, since it costs nettop HTPC and netbook sales (a dual core Atom with Ion should be fine, but it isn't), thereby directly bringing down quantity of downloads, therefore shakes down to bringing down bandwidth usage, i.e., Flash brings down three industries, hardware, content brokers and bandwidth providers, it costs them money through lost/unrealized opportunities. With these guys, it's about business, and Flash aint lookin too good for business. Course, they might not see/frame it that way, but that's just a matter of perception, and perceptions can change overnight.
#492075 - 01/30/1009:39 AMRe: Where are you following the announcement?
[Re: FSM]
zwei soporific
Registered: 06/26/04
Posts: 2479
Loc: Near an iPad
Originally Posted By: FSM
Originally Posted By: MacBozo
Originally Posted By: FSM
i just don't think the iPad can be used to replace a laptop or computer. i think people who try are going to be sorely disappointed.
That is not the market that it is designed to compete in. It's a complimentary device to a full fledged computer. For those of us who want to wander around the house and surf wirelessly at a great price, it fits the bill.
perhaps you know that, but there are other people who wanted to replace an old iBook or Macbook who think this can be that replacement. when it was announced i was giving a presentation to faculty at my U and there was an IT person there. she saw me looking up the Apple announcement after the session and came up to see what it was. we sat and read the Engadget updates and she said her girlfriend was waiting to see what was announced because she needed to replace her old laptop. perhaps they'll figure this out, but i think there will be a lot of people hoping to take the cheap way out and then finding out later that they can't do some of the things they'd hoped they could do (e.g., i suspect that even photo editing will be crummy on the iPad).
actually, in my case, it likely will be replacing an old iBook G4. That machine is used for email and web only but it's used every day. This will become the everyday couch computer for us.
#492091 - 01/30/1010:59 AMRe: Where are you following the announcement?
[Re: zwei]
Jim_ Number 9
Registered: 04/21/02
Posts: 12646
Loc: Columbus OH
Really odd Zach. Michael's Mini specs are less than yours overall. The machine specs are close, bus speed the same, but his graphics card is even less than yours. His is integrated 64M, yours is the 128M 7300 Nvidia which is dedicated I think? You have a 7200 RPM HD too. All around you have a faster machine.
I'm sure you tried but do you close all other browser windows and applications and it's still jumpy?
Sean, same for you, you shouldn't be having a problem.
#492102 - 01/30/1011:45 AMRe: Where are you following the announcement?
[Re: Jim_]
zwei soporific
Registered: 06/26/04
Posts: 2479
Loc: Near an iPad
Originally Posted By: Reboot
Really odd Zach. Michael's Mini specs are less than yours overall. The machine specs are close, bus speed the same, but his graphics card is even less than yours. His is integrated 64M, yours is the 128M 7300 Nvidia which is dedicated I think? You have a 7200 RPM HD too. All around you have a faster machine.
I'm sure you tried but do you close all other browser windows and applications and it's still jumpy?
Sean, same for you, you shouldn't be having a problem.
The GPU doesn't have much to do with it as far as I know. I'm pretty sure it's 100% CPU related. Also, he said the 19" monitor he was using had a res of 1440x900 the screenshot I posted above where I first started noticing jitter was at a res of ~1600x950. So if I was using a lower res it should do as good or better than Michael's mini.
#492108 - 01/30/1012:04 PMRe: Where are you following the announcement?
[Re: zwei]
Jim_ Number 9
Registered: 04/21/02
Posts: 12646
Loc: Columbus OH
Originally Posted By: zwei
Also, he said the 19" monitor he was using had a res of 1440x900 the screenshot I posted above where I first started noticing jitter was at a res of ~1600x950. So if I was using a lower res it should do as good or better than Michael's mini.
#492113 - 01/30/1012:18 PMRe: Where are you following the announcement?
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zwei soporific
Registered: 06/26/04
Posts: 2479
Loc: Near an iPad
For now, I'm content just zooming into the image until it fills the screen. The picture doesn't look any worse to me that way, and my CPU meter only shows ~50% usage.
I also updated to the brand new 10.1 beta and things are still choppy. I'm pretty much destined to be pissed at flash
Only other option is to boot into Windows where Adobe actually gives a damn.
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