I'd be getting the violin out if it wasn't for the fact that this began with an unwarranted accusation of homophobia.

My exchanges with W2ed started with his opening gambit of "WTF?" in answer to my considered points about morality and only came to an end when he admitted that the only alternative he could see was making personal remarks - oddly enough I never feel the need to do that. To be honest I think those exchanges reveal exemplary efforts on my part to conduct a civilised conversation, and by and large I think it was.

km

Thanks for that. But as I said — in so many words — the prosecution rests.

Though I'd love to hear your rendition of Flight of the Bumblebee some time.

. . . making personal remarks - oddly enough I never feel the need to do that.


That's not true.

Yep it's true... unless you want to cite instances of self-defence.

km

In that case it fails.

km

If you wonder about the homophobia references, it's probably because you never have been openly supportive of the gay lifestyle, but also to be fair, nor have you said outright that you find it morally reprehensible. I don't care to debate any of that BTW, it's just one example. The point is no one really knows your stance on that, or most anything, without having to try and solve a rubik's cube.

Everybody else here makes their beliefs known in black and white, plain English. It's a meeting place where friends share things about themselves and their feelings, not a court of law where every conversation has to have a winner. If you want to get your point across, sometimes it might help to know what makes the man tick. It's good to make people look at all sides, but to never openly take one of those sides seems like you're afraid to make a commitment, and people then have to make assumptions as to what you really believe.

So basically the way I see it is you bring these things upon yourself by not opening up your feelings like friends do in everyday conversation. You make it cold and calculated, like a courtroom, not like the friendly get together and camaraderie that people generally come here for.

My 2 Euros.