I think they'll support the $ for the war, if they don't they'll be seen as weak on Natl Security !!

BUT what they'll stall or cut appropriations on is everything else... no Health care reform, no infrastructure funding, no $ for education, ... anything domestic.... like 9-11, it's their "godsend" excuse for their agenda... feed the rich, scrap the middle class, enhance their foreign military desires, and destroy every social program in Govt they can !... oh they'll say they're for Medicare, but they'd love to see it die just like they would SS.

Global warming. Obama's Afghan plans, and gawd knows what other topics to come, you're just not going to wrong, are you?

Ok. Stick with simple if it makes you happy. With just black and white, there's not a helluva lot of thought required. Go for it.

Not when you're always right, no.

km

Steve Steve

I can get into the complicated as well - as notice with members they do all the complication them selves and never look at what is really in front of their faces , sadly .

Sure we can win this if;

1 - Pakistan takes care of the cross boarder regions <-- which is the Southern bases of the Taliban - Ahh do you think that will really happen

2 - Pakistan is in battle with the northern tribes , only because they were a threat to Pakistan it self but the larger south Taliban is untouched

Sooooo really if the Coalition can run off the Taliban from Afghanistan - where do you think their gonna run ? Yep back into their bases inside Southern Pakistan

What are your battle plans ? ? If none shut up just kidding

I heard from the address.

1 - Send more troops
a) - Clean up some activity and train more afghans to take over
b) - Short timeline - sorta gives the Afghan government to get their shiit together or bye-bye

Option;
Pay off the war lords essentially buying their security against the Taliban - worked in Iraq to a point they are now killing each other , instead of American troops , well they been doing that before the invasion anyway

He still can't hear you.

I dealt with that non-point last time you made it.

km

carp, carp.

You're so intent on coming out on top of a wright or wrong argument that you've completely missed my point -- which is despite what's out there in plain sight, there are influences and pressures, internally and externally that we are not aware of or do not have an intimate understanding of. Iraq was less complicated because we simply had no business being there in the first place. So finding a clear rationale for getting out was relatively easy (once the adults took charge, that is).

Afghanistan is incredibly complex because at first we had a clear mission that was then abandoned. And then there's Pakistan. It's like a huge game of Topple. One tiny wrong move, and the whole thing comes down around your ears. One shift this way creates many other shifts another way. Shift one of those back, and something else moves elsewhere. There's almost no totally right decision. At least not today.

I asked you before if you'd want to have this responsibility? Instead of an answer, I get "What are your battle plans ? ? If none shut up just kidding" I wouldn't begin to know what should be done. And what are your battle plans? If none, shut up. Not kidding.

I don't think we should be escalating. I think we should cut our losses and leave the region entirely. But aside from what I get from the news, and how I feel, I don't have a clue to the real situation and the real consequences either way.

I remember. You wrapped yourself around a pole claiming you weren't responding to steve.


Jesus, that one's still funny.

Oh you mean the thread where he admitted piecing my posts together from available clues?

km

Right Lea



I think Steveg was either responding to himself or maybe to "KM"