#478785 - 11/23/0912:22 PMRe: Smoking - Your Macintosh - Repairs - Warranty
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Antonio
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That makes sense. If there's that much buildup inside the machine, there could quite possibly be issues related to it. One must also think that such a builup makes the machine difficult to work on.
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#478789 - 11/23/0912:28 PMRe: Smoking - Your Macintosh - Repairs - Warranty
[Re: Antonio]
carp
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Originally Posted By: Antonio
That makes sense. If there's that much buildup inside the machine, there could quite possibly be issues related to it. One must also think that such a builup makes the machine difficult to work on.
It makes it difficult to work on for sure and you have to spend time to clean it , so there is a money issue as well -- However there is NO Hazard for the tech , unless he/she cleans it with their lips .
#478861 - 11/23/0905:24 PMRe: Smoking - Your Macintosh - Repairs - Warranty
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My first iMac lived the first few years of it's life in a couple of VERY smoky apartments. It was the graphite DVSE one. in about 2003 or 4, I got my hands on one that hadn't been around smoke. The difference was astonishing. You could barely see through the casing of the first one! I had never noticed since the change was so gradual.
But you know what? It worked just fine, and even after being drenched with water during Katrina, it ran for like another two or three years. So, while the smoke definitely isn't good for it, I don't know that it was really all that bad.
#478862 - 11/23/0905:34 PMRe: Smoking - Your Macintosh - Repairs - Warranty
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My graphite DVSE (the one in those pictures) also still lives. Although, it does get a little wonky sometimes. That's why it's in the basement now, being saved as a spare. Not reliable enough anymore.
#478945 - 11/24/0910:31 AMRe: Smoking - Your Macintosh - Repairs - Warranty
[Re: John Rougeux]
carp
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Originally Posted By: John Rougeux
Originally Posted By: carp
However there is NO Hazard for the tech , unless he/she cleans it with their lips .
That's quite the bold statement there. I wouldn't ever claim anything is not hazardous, especially situations like this.
What happens if the technician is allergic to cig. smoke or a chemical in the smoke?
What if the person is allergic to plastic ? or electricity or copper or , we can go on for ever . If it was hazardous OSHA and EPA would have flagged it . We do know it is certainly not good for ya so don't lick it and wash your hands like your supposed to do
#478950 - 11/24/0911:00 AMRe: Smoking - Your Macintosh - Repairs - Warranty
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What if the person is allergic to plastic ? or electricity or copper or , we can go on for ever . If it was hazardous OSHA and EPA would have flagged it . We do know it is certainly not good for ya so don't lick it and wash your hands like your supposed to do
But you can't make a computer that doesn't contain copper, plastic and electricity. You CAN make one that doesn't have cigarette smoke in it.
I'm not saying Apple are correct in this, but I can see a valid argument for there being limitations against the conditions under which the warranty can apply. And this hasn't got anything to do with OSHA, it was a decision by apple.
Most people aren't allergic to water, but I'd guess that if you tried to take a soaking-wet computer in for service, you probably wouldn't get too far.
#478970 - 11/24/0912:08 PMRe: Smoking - Your Macintosh - Repairs - Warranty
[Re: John Rougeux]
carp
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Originally Posted By: John Rougeux
I wouldn't totally depend on OSHA and/or EPA to label all things correctly and quickly.
But again, like I said before, I wouldn't be so quick to label 2nd hand smoke residue as NOT hazardous, like you did.
Because it is NOT hazardous unless you lick it , thats like saying BBQ smoke residue is Hazardous
Here the definition that I think fits the best .
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Hazard For other uses of Hazard, see Hazard (disambiguation). A hazard is a situation that poses a level of threat to life, health, property, or environment. Most hazards are dormant or potential, with only a theoretical risk of harm; however, once a hazard becomes 'active', it can create an emergency situation. A hazard does not exist when it is happening. A hazardous situation that has come to pass is called an incident. Hazard and vulnerability interact together to create risk.
H3ll even water is a hazard , you can call almost everything is a hazard , sidewalks , dogs , cats , even people are walking hazards
But in this sense Hazard would mean that you need to use protective clothing , gloves , respirator , eye protection ,, use of special chemicals , use of special disposal containers that are clearly marked .