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#478684 - 11/23/09 02:46 AM Re: Smoking - Your Macintosh - Repairs - Warranty [Re: carp]
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carp, smoking ruins a computer. I was the only smoker in our house. When I quit, I decided to tear my iMac apart for a thorough cleaning, since I had repainted the ceilings and walls, etc.

This is what it looked like:
























This is after a lot of work cleaning it out. Yes, reboot, I used a CRT discharge tool wink
If you smoke, it's best to do it outdoors.







Edited by dreed2 (11/23/09 02:50 AM)

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#478742 - 11/23/09 05:22 PM Re: Smoking - Your Macintosh - Repairs - Warranty [Re: ]
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It's hard to believe that's from smoking alone, even chain smoking.
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#478758 - 11/23/09 06:38 PM Re: Smoking - Your Macintosh - Repairs - Warranty [Re: Antonio]
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My wife's looked like that too. It's the electrical charge that causes it to "stick" to all of the parts.
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#478761 - 11/23/09 06:55 PM Re: Smoking - Your Macintosh - Repairs - Warranty [Re: MacBozo]
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Luckily for the health of the macs, some of that stuff never makes it out of the smokers.
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#478767 - 11/23/09 07:13 PM Re: Smoking - Your Macintosh - Repairs - Warranty [Re: MacBozo]
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The cigarette residue that was inside of my old iMac was hard to clean off. I'm happy that no one has ever smoked around my 2006 Mac Pro. When I took it apart recently to add RAM, it was a little dusty, but the dust blew off easily with canned air.

I was the only smoker in the house and didn't chain smoke, so I was shocked to see how bad the insides of that iMac looked! Also, I only used it evenings and weekends because I work full time. Kept the outside of it clean, as well as the desk area. Vacuumed the air vents and desk area regularly. I imagine that a heavy smoker's Mac would look even worse.

Can't blame a tech for not wanting to deal with it.

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#478768 - 11/23/09 07:15 PM Re: Smoking - Your Macintosh - Repairs - Warranty [Re: ]
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carp, smoking ruins a computer.


I never said it didn't
I was saying build up like would take a year or longer , unless the ashtray is next to the air intake vent sorta acted like one of those Ionizers laugh

The larger question is OSHA calling it a Hazard ? ? I'll do a google on OSHA site later
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#478774 - 11/23/09 07:48 PM Re: Smoking - Your Macintosh - Repairs - Warranty [Re: KateSorensen]
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Below part of the story at: this link - PC World

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Now, I am as much against smoking as anyone. I also do not want workers needlessly exposed to hazardous substances. Still, for Apple to deny warranty claims on Macs exposed to cigarette smoke seems way over the line.

Yet, that is what The Consumerist says Apple has done on at least two occasions in recent months.

Apple is apparently telling at least some customers that the amount of cigarette smoke residue inside their computers makes it unsafe for the company to perform warranty service on them, despite the lack of such a clause in the company's warranty agreement.

The Consumerist says the complaint as been raised as far as Steve Jobs' office, with no relief for the customers involved.

The story was reported on Friday, though the Consumerist said it had sought, but failed to receive, any explanation from Apple HQ over a period of months. (The site is part of the Consumers Union/Consumer Reports organization, so I deem the report credible).


And this from Business Insider web site.

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People are complaining that Apple refused to repair their under-warranty computers because they were "contaminated" by cigarette smoke.

Consumerists notes two particular cases where Apple customers seeking warranty services on their laptops and computers were turned away.

One customer with a $3000 iMac was denied services eventually emailed CEO Steve Jobs to complain.

Eventually a woman from Steve's office named Dena called the customer "to deliver the bad news."

She said that the computer is beyond economical repair due to tar from cigarette smoke! She said the
hard drive is about to fail, the optical drive has failed and it isn't feasible to repair the computer under the warranty. This computer is less than 2 years old! Only one person in my household smokes - one 21 year old college student. She said that I can get it repaired elsewhere at my expense.

Ah. The good ol' hard-drive-is-full-of-tar excuse.


As more more people join in the discussion, maybe Apple will officially give a response.

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#478778 - 11/23/09 08:03 PM Re: Smoking - Your Macintosh - Repairs - Warranty [Re: KateSorensen]
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Link to OSHA interpretations

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Because the organic material in tobacco doesn't burn completely, cigarette smoke contains more than 4,700 chemical compounds. Although OSHA has no regulation that addresses tobacco smoke as a whole


Talks more about air born smoke

As I thought it is more Apple and not an OSHA ruling .

Anyway if Apple is gonna pull the cat out of the bag - it has to make it clear that smokers will not get any type of warranty service at all , before they make that purchase . Simply if I bought a 3,000 Mac and (Apple Pro Care) on top of that __> I would be pissed
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#478779 - 11/23/09 08:05 PM Re: Smoking - Your Macintosh - Repairs - Warranty [Re: KateSorensen]
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I wonder if maybe it's the techs who are refusing to work on one that is really nasty when they open it up.
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#478783 - 11/23/09 08:14 PM Re: Smoking - Your Macintosh - Repairs - Warranty [Re: MacBozo]
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Originally Posted By: MacBozo
I wonder if maybe it's the techs who are refusing to work on one that is really nasty when they open it up.


Possible , that they don't wanna get their hands dirty , more so a non smoker might even wanna puke laugh They proberly raised the red flag to begin with then Apple noticed ?

Sooooooo
Should Apple pay for repairs caused by a smoker ?
Should Apple pay for cleaning your tar incased machine ?

Bottom line ; As mentioned if Apple is going to pull this , they have to be upfront before you buy a Mac and more so before you buy extended care.

Now since I have Pro Care on Jaz iMac 24 , I feel like I was ripped off .
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