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#476441 - 01/17/09 12:10 PM Re: eMac HD upgrade? [Re: marwnos]
TCPMeta Offline
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Registered: 11/16/07
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Well if you're set on getting 5400RPM drives heres a link.
5400RPM drives from pricewatch

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#476442 - 01/17/09 06:57 PM Re: eMac HD upgrade? [Re: marwnos]
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drive speed does NOT matter!

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#476443 - 01/20/09 03:02 PM Re: eMac HD upgrade? [Re: marwnos]
DodgeMan Offline


Registered: 01/14/09
Posts: 9
I'm not set on using the 5400 speed HDs but I can get them to work in the computers I am working on and I can't get these new 7200 speed HDs to work in the same computers! I have tried 6 different HDs in 4 different computers and get the same result every time! I did try to zero them out and I can not get one to zero out! They either stop half way or error out! Do you think i just have a bad batch of HDs?

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#476444 - 01/20/09 03:13 PM Re: eMac HD upgrade? [Re: marwnos]
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Registered: 09/05/07
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That's very fishy. What OS are you using when trying to zero them?

6 HDs all being bad is extremely unlikely. But I wouldn't put it completely out. Where did you source the HDs from?

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#476445 - 01/20/09 03:51 PM Re: eMac HD upgrade? [Re: marwnos]
DodgeMan Offline


Registered: 01/14/09
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Well I have tried 3 different ways to zero them out! I tried to zero them out first by hooking them up externally with a kit that I have to do that on my MacBook. Then I tried putting it into a Dell PC and zeroing it there with the same result. Then I put into our Logicube that we use to clone PC HDs end zero it there and it erred out there also. I hate to take a eMac all the way apparat just to replace the HD in it and not know if it will work or not or I would try that way too.

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#476446 - 01/20/09 08:08 PM Re: eMac HD upgrade? [Re: marwnos]
DodgeMan Offline


Registered: 01/14/09
Posts: 9
By putting the new 7200 RPM HD into a eMac and zeroing out the HD and putting a good image on it seems to be working. I don't know why I could not zero them out any other way but I can get it working this way now and I guess that is all that matters. Thanks for all the help guys!

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#476447 - 01/20/09 08:14 PM Re: eMac HD upgrade? [Re: marwnos]
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Glad to hear you were able to get it running. Good luck with the rest of 'em!

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#476448 - 01/20/09 10:12 PM Re: eMac HD upgrade? [Re: marwnos]
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Registered: 01/15/09
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I said in the last post you need to make sure that they are set on cable select or it will come up as a bad HD. There are several brands out there that say they are mac computable but are not. I stuck with seagate put tab on cable select and booted right up not a problem wiped drive formated and walla. I looked at apple build to order info on this machine when coming from factory custom installs could take a 160 GIG HD. Apple broke through there HD size limitations on the Mirror Door serious so size is not the problem or speed of the HD it is the pin out setting that are critical in order to work properly. My eMac is a ATI series so I know that that machine is newer and can handle it no problem. Now depending on the operating system you are installing on the HD will also affect if it will see the HD properly. RPM rates shouldn't matter at all due to the fact through the system upgrades this is fixed in operating systems boot CD's. Would recommend staying to seagate due to the fact clearer instructions and a higher success rate working on Apple. When this machine boots it is critical setting of the pin outs and makes a big difference on how the hard drive works with the machine it self.

Here is the spec page on this
http://support.apple.com/kb/SP85

Below is a great site with lots of info This also has a section in it that is for hard disk drive Here it states clearly that the HD's need to be set to cable select and states why.
http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/eMac/eMac-upgrade.html

The BootROM of Power Mac G4 (Mirrored Drive Doors), Xserve, Power Mac G5, and any other model introduced after June 2002 can accommodate these larger drives.

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#476449 - 01/21/09 02:11 PM Re: eMac HD upgrade? [Re: marwnos]
flippy10 Offline


Registered: 09/05/07
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Loc: Pelham
Originally Posted By: "sinirsire"
I said in the last post you need to make sure that they are set on cable select or it will come up as a bad HD. There are several brands out there that say they are mac computable but are not. I stuck with seagate put tab on cable select and booted right up not a problem wiped drive formated and walla. I looked at apple build to order info on this machine when coming from factory custom installs could take a 160 GIG HD. Apple broke through there HD size limitations on the Mirror Door serious so size is not the problem or speed of the HD it is the pin out setting that are critical in order to work properly. My eMac is a ATI series so I know that that machine is newer and can handle it no problem. Now depending on the operating system you are installing on the HD will also affect if it will see the HD properly. RPM rates shouldn't matter at all due to the fact through the system upgrades this is fixed in operating systems boot CD's. Would recommend staying to seagate due to the fact clearer instructions and a higher success rate working on Apple. When this machine boots it is critical setting of the pin outs and makes a big difference on how the hard drive works with the machine it self.

Here is the spec page on this
http://support.apple.com/kb/SP85

Below is a great site with lots of info This also has a section in it that is for hard disk drive Here it states clearly that the HD's need to be set to cable select and states why.
http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/eMac/eMac-upgrade.html

The BootROM of Power Mac G4 (Mirrored Drive Doors), Xserve, Power Mac G5, and any other model introduced after June 2002 can accommodate these larger drives.


Good Info. Bookmarked those.

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#476450 - 01/21/09 02:24 PM Re: eMac HD upgrade? [Re: marwnos]
DodgeMan Offline


Registered: 01/14/09
Posts: 9
Anybody have any idea why zeroing out theses HDs is the only way I can make them work? Just curious to know why I have to do that to make them work.

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