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#474775 - 02/28/08 06:26 AM Re: P2 PORTABLE MEGA DUMP! (advice needed) [Re: opolero]
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I saw that you said 6 750gb drives...

1TB NAS won't do you any good if you are looking to do 6 drives. If you are doing 6, you need them to all be connected to the same controller so you can RAID them together...

That macbook express sata card looks promising. There are quite a few 6 and 8 disk raid controllers and kits avail with esata out...
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#474776 - 02/28/08 06:45 AM Re: P2 PORTABLE MEGA DUMP! (advice needed) [Re: opolero]
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Originally Posted By: "oojacoboo"
1TB NAS won't do you any good if you are looking to do 6 drives. If you are doing 6, you need them to all be connected to the same controller so you can RAID them together.


it's not as much the number of the drives but 6 750gbs seemed the most cost efficient. you can buy 2 for the price of 1tb drive.

there's a lot to consider, i might have to forgo the battery for a long extension cord unless i might find a electric vehicle battery that works.

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#474777 - 02/28/08 09:17 AM Re: P2 PORTABLE MEGA DUMP! (advice needed) [Re: opolero]
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this might be a stupid question. are internal desktop hard drives ac or dc?

i was looking at electric car batteries, thinking what the hell, they run cars?

http://www.foxxpower.com/Foxx%20Power%20Specs.pdf

the biggest problem i found in what i originally envisioned is that cheap internal hard drives consume so much power compared to expensive small capacity laptop drives.

http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/datasheet/disc/ds_barracuda_7200_11.pdf

http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/datasheet/disc/ds_momentus_7200_2.pdf

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#474778 - 02/28/08 09:30 AM Re: P2 PORTABLE MEGA DUMP! (advice needed) [Re: opolero]
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another thing to consider is whether to make this a nas or a das. just trying to make the most efficient configuration possible.

another realization, i wasn't thinking about the fact that a gig a minute of for footage only means 16.666 mb/s. i mistakenly was looking for something that did 1gb/s throughput. that makes things easier. usb 2.0 pcmcia readers are cheap!

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#474779 - 02/28/08 09:48 AM Re: P2 PORTABLE MEGA DUMP! (advice needed) [Re: opolero]
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i found usb 2.0 card readers for 60 a piece

http://www.onsale.com/shop/detail.aspx?dpno=640277&store=onsale&source=bwbfroogle

i wish i could find one that was pcmcia card reader to firewire 800, because p2 cards can transfer at 640 mb/s. even better if i could daisy chain several readers and have it connect to the macbooks ethernet. that way you could dump then in a few minutes and then shoot again.

to pull this all off might need several mods. anyone know the possibility of modding pcmcia readers to handle the full throughput to a mbp?

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#474780 - 02/28/08 10:09 AM Re: P2 PORTABLE MEGA DUMP! (advice needed) [Re: opolero]
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update!

http://www.shopaddonics.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=AE4UDDSA

http://www.shopaddonics.com/items.asp?Cc=PMR&Bc=

these might be the important pieces to the setup. i may go over my humble budget but it'll be 1000's less, if not 10k less. if i can some how power the cheap internal drives with a electric car battery i'm in.

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#474781 - 02/28/08 10:35 AM Re: P2 PORTABLE MEGA DUMP! (advice needed) [Re: opolero]
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someone is thinking like me

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=166269

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#474782 - 02/28/08 12:12 PM Re: P2 PORTABLE MEGA DUMP! (advice needed) [Re: opolero]
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after finding these, i'm wondering if i could mod the mbp to have and extra express card slot, maybe lose the optical drive?


http://www.duel-systems.com/products/adapters.aspx


http://www.addonics.com/products/host_controller/adexc34-2e.asp

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#474783 - 02/29/08 04:05 PM Re: P2 PORTABLE MEGA DUMP! (advice needed) [Re: opolero]
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Eh, I'm not aware of any methods to use the interface for the optical drive for a PCMCIA or ExpressCard slot yet. You will probably want the optical drive in case you need to import CD's or DVD's on the fly.

You could try doing the external RAID route, though having to use the camera to import at near real time OR using a bulky reader which doesn't record enough seems like two more hurdles to go through.

IF P2 (here I'm not sure) dumps the video as a raw file for later editing in a hurry so you just have to have a small spare to write to while swapping out cards, then that may be doable.

Please let me know how those import times are regardless. I'd appreciate it.

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#474784 - 02/29/08 08:43 PM Re: P2 PORTABLE MEGA DUMP! (advice needed) [Re: opolero]
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Originally Posted By: "whitlock"
You could try doing the external RAID route, though having to use the camera to import at near real time OR using a bulky reader which doesn't record enough seems like two more hurdles to go through.


there are obvious existing solutions, but i don't have $10k, and feel like there is a diy solution, they price this stuff like they're selling to the military.


Originally Posted By: "whitlock"
IF P2 (here I'm not sure) dumps the video as a raw file for later editing in a hurry so you just have to have a small spare to write to while swapping out cards, then that may be doable.


it outputs a low compression codec file that is supported by final cut studio. the goal is dump it as fast as possible so you can reformat them before you need to switch them, you can switch cards while recording.

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