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#472856 - 07/18/07 01:48 PM Modern Day Mac Clone [Re: Anonymous]
iBookdude458 Offline
Where's the cache?

Registered: 11/16/07
Posts: 341
After seeing the Core 2 Duo Sawtooth i got to thinking that perhaps its possible to build a mac clone for a good price. The scary thing is all necessary parts cost just about 1012$. But the only question is will mac OS X not perform as well and do PCs use the new EFI system.
here is the part list
Mac Clone Part List

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565
2 gigs of fast ram 125.99$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115002
2.66GHZ Dual Core Core 2 Duo 317$

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...;amp;CatId=1560
Video car 256MB SLI capable 149.99$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813141003
SLI enabled motherboard 229.99$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827131038
Superdrive 30.99$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148144
250 gig HD 67.99$

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...;amp;CatId=2036
59.99$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118005
heat sink 44.99$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811998127
fans (8) 3.99$

i spent like an hour and a half designing this thing. if can work i'd build it in a G5 case.
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#472857 - 07/18/07 03:58 PM Re: Modern Day Mac Clone [Re: Anonymous]
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would love to see a mod guide on this, could be a good mod challenge piece too wink
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#472858 - 07/18/07 04:19 PM Re: Modern Day Mac Clone [Re: Anonymous]
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Registered: 11/16/07
Posts: 1656
May I suggest an OC of a cheaper C2D.  Mine is a e6400 running at 3.2ghz with an AC 775 Pro.  It would save ya 200 bills.  Also, intels price cuts and new processors are coming out next week...so wait and see if something better comes along for ya.

Rest looks good.  May I suggest this site too http://www.aqua-mac.com.  He built a very fine G5 PC, check it out.

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#472859 - 07/18/07 04:26 PM Re: Modern Day Mac Clone [Re: Anonymous]
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Registered: 08/16/04
Posts: 500
Loc: Portland, Oregon
Technically, yes. PC's in a sense do use EFI. The Extensible Firmware Interface was developed by Intel as a successor to the BIOS. However, in order to run and use EFI, you most likely will need an intel chip and board that support EFI. At least, thats what I've been told.
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#472860 - 07/18/07 04:31 PM Re: Modern Day Mac Clone [Re: Anonymous]
iBookdude458 Offline
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I plan to build this long in the future i just wanted to hammer out a rough estimate of what it would cost. as for overclocking IDK to do it and i'd probably kill the chip. another thing is will this rig run just as good a reguler desktop mac like an imac or dare i say it a mac pro. I designed this to be in between the imac and mac pro but mostly borderline mac pro.
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#472861 - 07/18/07 04:53 PM Re: Modern Day Mac Clone [Re: Anonymous]
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Registered: 11/16/07
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OC'ing is easy as long as you dont expect too much for what you know.  OC to 2.66 is super easy even with the e3600.  If you need help there are lots of websites and I would be willing to help out too.

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#472862 - 07/18/07 05:01 PM Re: Modern Day Mac Clone [Re: Anonymous]
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Do i need a board with onboard video to install x86. anyone on this site that did please msg me on the subject.
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#472863 - 07/18/07 09:28 PM Re: Modern Day Mac Clone [Re: Anonymous]
iBookdude458 Offline
Where's the cache?

Registered: 11/16/07
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hey guys i revised my part list slightly its cheaper and faster now.

Mac Clone Part List

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565
2 gigs of fast ram 125.99$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115002
2.66GHZ Dual Core Core 2 Duo 317$

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...mp;body=REVIEWS
Video card 512MB SLI capable 129.99$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813141003
SLI enabled motherboard 229.99$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827131038
Superdrive 30.99$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148144
250 gig HD 67.99$

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...;amp;CatId=2036
600watt SLI Cert PSU 59.99$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118005
heat sink 44.99$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811998127
fans (8) 3.99$

total 1038.85$ without case

the only question is now will this run the mac Version of Doom 3 at full specs and will it run the Mac version of Gears of War when it comes out and will it run Half life 2 in wine. I think i might actually build this beast if i get the money which you can donate to the Mac Clone Project at http://www.myspace.com/str
atocasterman look for the paypal button. All donations are appreciated.
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#472864 - 07/21/07 06:26 PM Re: Modern Day Mac Clone [Re: Anonymous]
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Registered: 11/16/07
Posts: 1816
Loc: Florida, USA
I've been thinking about this long and hard. I saw a ton of write ups for the OSx86 hardware. If you get the motherboard that was pretty much the same as the motherboards Apple used on the test/build systems then you can easily make the old BIOS run a EFI setup. Just need a mac that uses the same chipset and do some kind of a ROM dump and get a EPROM programmer or force a flash to the BIOS on the PC and wallha. Illegal? 50 - 50 yes and no. Illegal that it's not from Apple but same hardware Apple uses. In all you would be subjected to pirating software.

My hardware list for a clone would run me about 300. I already have most of the parts, just need the mobo and CPU.


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#472865 - 07/21/07 09:55 PM Re: Modern Day Mac Clone [Re: Anonymous]
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Posts: 117
It's not really illegal as long as you purchased a Mac OS X license, right? The most illegal part would be if you download the hacked OS X from the web.
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