I have a Radeon 9700 pro from a MDD G4 which I want to use in a quicksilver G4. Interestingly at 10.2 this card worked with no problems in the quicksilver. After a 10.3 upgrade it quit working and went back in the MDD. Now I'm trying again, since that first Quicksilver has since failed, I tried it in another. Initially the machine boots, but there is no video. I tried the taping of pins 3 and 11 to reduce the AGP bus speed. This boots and produces the blue screen and a working mouse pointer, but no login window or other gfx. I can login remotely and see that the card was detected in the logs, but then after a short period of time the machine will lockup entirely. Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?
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Hmmm...well, one way to check and see if it's the firmware is to boot into the terminal or even the open firmware. If you still suffer from video corruption, it looks like you may need to flash that card to work again.
Someone else more familiar with graphics cards may be of better assistance though, just my two cents.
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This is a shot in the dark but I'll put it out there. I jsut recently added a radeon 9800 to my quicksilver and it works fine, but it has to have the extra external power source (as apposed to the power flowing throuhg the motherboard. I can't help but wonder if there just isn't enoguh power getting to your card. Again I have no clue though.
Im not sure why its not working. I think they are both AGP 4s. The power supply problem may be part of it too. What monitors are you using. If its an Apple ADC that may be the problem. Try and find someone who has this card in their QS. Ill try to dig up an answer for you. -maestro
Thanx for looking around. I was trying a 20" ADC as the primary monitor. I had briefly tried a regular DVI monitor, only but perhaps I didn't try all the options there (zap pram, etc.) I'll also nab a PCI gfx card and try that.
I can boot into openfirmware okay. I haven't yet tried single user mode, but I can get slogged in for 60-300 seconds before it locks up.
I'm suspecting the PS as well, since the card does get pretty hot and it looks like some PC 9700s (like the 9800s) have external power connectors. Not sure if I can see where to solder in some extra power for the thing though.
Soldering on your card can be risky if you dont know what you are doing. Thats an idea though. Your problem is probably because of the ADC monitor Im guessing. The card must supply power to it. Do the power supply parts on the card and motherboard match up?
yes, it powers the ADC monitor just fine. and I get a nice blue screen and even a working mouse pointer. The ADC power is just a pass-thru from that special card-edge connector to the pins on the ADC connector. It's voltage from the AGP bus to power the card itself that might possibly be the issue, though I'm not completley convinced.
Okay, now I would say that it is not getting enough juice. Try a VGA monitor. If that doesn't work, then I just don't know. If it does you have a power issue when running ADC. Also, check some sites on the Retail 9700. If your card has the solder tabs, you could solder a connector on. You may need a firmware update though. I wish I knew more. Ill keep looking for a solution for you. -maestro
So, I tried a few more things. I tried using just the DVI connector to no avail. Single User boot works find and displays okay video via DVI or ADC. I tried booting with a PCI video card connected to the monitor and that works and shows the proper GoldenEye driver loaded for the 9700, but as soon as I connect a VGA or DVI monitor and hit 'Detect Displays' the machine locks.
Since the card works fine in the MDD unit, I'm guessing that it's not getting enough power. This cube owner posting appears to confirm that.
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