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#444941 - 09/16/09 07:46 PM Re: Choice of trials... [Re: katlpablo]
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I wish you would read my post instead of knee jerking and making wild accusations

KM likes to point out that Hamas has the right to kill anyone

Read Six of Ones post says it best
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#444942 - 09/16/09 07:46 PM Doano about this? [Re: keymaker]
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Israel threatens Lebanon and Obama

Obama is sending shockwaves through the pro-Israel lobby community,
if not for his actions then his reluctance to tow the traditional
Zionist line, writes Franklin Lamb from South Lebanon

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#444944 - 09/16/09 07:52 PM Re: Choice of trials... [Re: keymaker]
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I don't think he was doing that - he was suggesting that the blame was 50 / 50 although that obviously didn't bear much resemblance to the civilian fatality statistics of 1417 / 3.


Does not matter if it was 50,000 / 1 - The fact is war crime was committed we are talking about the crime it self , not the numbers

Hence the 50 /50 both sides share the blame
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#444946 - 09/16/09 07:55 PM Re: Choice of trials... [Re: carp]
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KM likes to point out that Hamas has the right to kill anyone

I've never said that... a person is only allowed to kill in lawful self-defence or in defence of real property.

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#444947 - 09/16/09 08:00 PM Re: Choice of trials... [Re: Celandine]
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That's when I started paying closer attention...
and that's when I realized THAT WAS WHY THEY WERE DOING IT
It was TRYING To Call the WORLD'S ATTENTION to what was happening.


This is the kind of thinking that gets Gaza is so much trouble

There are many ways to get the Worlds Attention - lobbing rockets will only bring more deaths . Like what we all just seen , did it do anything ? ? Sure it has gotten all the wrong attention thats for sure

As I mentioned before Israel must lift its oppression and stop the settlements - Hamas must say that Israel has the right to exist <- the latter must come first
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#444948 - 09/16/09 08:02 PM Re: Choice of trials... [Re: keymaker]
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You said it many times in other threads , the excuse you use is occupation
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#444950 - 09/16/09 08:17 PM Re: Choice of trials... [Re: carp]
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Does not matter if it was 50,000 / 1

Yeah, it matters - excessive use of force is prohibited by customary international law.

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we are talking about the crime it self , not the numbers

I was taking about the crime and the numbers.

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Hence the 50 /50 both sides share the blame

You mean 1417 / 3 both sides share the blame, right?

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#444962 - 09/16/09 09:24 PM Re: Choice of trials... [Re: keymaker]
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Your missing the point it is about the crimes not the numbers

Murder is murder be it 1 or 50,000

The number only matters during prosecution such as Israel has 1417 counts against them and Hamas has 3 counts against them

Still murder is murder which is the crime - Now to prove that all the 1417 were deaths that can be directly attributed to Israel as well as the 3 from Hamas . Which the investigation should provide and it is another reason the numbers maybe be very inaccurate which would disprove the allegation of excessive force .
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#445072 - 09/17/09 05:43 AM Re: Choice of trials... [Re: six_of_one]
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All wrongdoing on both sides should be chastised.

The subtitle of the article is very clear on the alleged findings on the assault on Gaza on January this year, and it remains published in the same words:

"Inquiry into Gaza conflict singles out Israeli policy towards Palestinians for most serious condemnation".
[emphasis by katlpablo]
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#445080 - 09/17/09 10:55 AM Re: Choice of trials... [Re: katlpablo]
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All wrongdoing on both sides should be chastised.


Okay then, many of you are chastising Israel for "the most serious condemnation." Carp is chastising Hamas for the alleged war crimes it has committed.

What's the problem, again?




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