I just heard a report on All Things Considered that stated that there is now specific language in the bill that prohibits government coverage for illegals. Maybe Wilson should follow his own advice and read the bill.
Interesting because GOP , including Bonehead all said that Wilson was correct about the 2 amendments , are they all wrong and did not read the Bill ? or did this specific language just come out today ?
fwiw; Hospital emergency rooms cannot BY LAW refuse care to anyone , illegal or under insured .
So what this means is that hospitals had a vehicle to recover money spent on care from a Federal account , sure it was pennies on the dollar spent but the hospital got some bucks back , anything is better then nothing .
Now ; If this bill is what I think it is and hospitals lose their recovery vehicle from the Feds - that would mean hospitals Nation Wide will have to raised their rates for everyone = defeats the purpose of the health care reform
Not only was it obvious that he didn't read the text of Obama's speech beforehand, it's also a no-brainer that he didn't watch the speech either. Most likely, he was standing in front of a mirror (maybe even in a negligee) rehearsing the cookie cutter script the party put in his hands days ago.
The 2 amendments were to enforce restrictions on illegals -- enforce restrictions on all applicants -- these were rejected because the appropriate language already existed in the bill.
FACT CHECK: Health coverage for illegal immigrants By ERICA WERNER (AP) – 49 minutes ago
WASHINGTON — Rep. Joe Wilson is wrong.
In his speech to Congress Wednesday, President Barack Obama said the changes to health care that he's proposing "would not apply to those who are here illegally." That prompted Wilson, a South Carolina Republican, to shout "You lie!" from his seat in the House chamber. Wilson later apologized for the outburst, but he didn't back down from his claim.
THE FACTS: The House version of the health care bill explicitly prohibits spending any federal money to help illegal immigrants get health care coverage. Illegal immigrants could buy private health insurance, as many do now, and they could also buy into a new government-run insurance plan if Congress creates one. But unlike legal residents, they wouldn't get federal subsidies to help them. The bill's exact language: "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully in the United States." Health care legislation in the Senate is also being crafted to exclude illegal immigrants from coverage.
However, Wilson is far from alone in thinking that the prohibition in the House bill doesn't go far enough. For him and other Republicans, the problem is not what's in the bill, it's what the bill leaves out. There's no provision for how the prohibition would be enforced, or any requirement for people to prove they are citizens or legal residents before getting health care benefits. In fact, Democrats on the Energy and Commerce and Ways and Means committees defeated Republican-offered amendments that would have required people to verify their legal status before getting care, with some Democrats saying such requirements would be unnecessarily burdensome for people legally entitled to coverage. Wilson cited the defeat of those two amendments Thursday when he discussed his outburst with reporters.
"I will tell you this, that it was spontaneous. It was when he stated, as he did, about not covering illegal aliens, when I knew we'd had those two amendments," Wilson said.
Just look around the locker room. Boneher, Cantnot, Impalin, Blechman, Endsign, Spamford, Steeletoe... And now we can ad Mr. Wilson, and the heart sturgeon.
I know Reboot doesn't want us to judge the whole party by these excuses for better birth control, but my gawd, man, the tail is 10X longer than the dog! The few remaining adults in the party have got to get these behavior problems shipped of to juvie hall ASAP!
Correct that is what I am saying above and I hope you read it carefully .
All this bill does is prevents hospitals from dipping into the Federal recovery emergency funds - this will intern raise health care cost , since hospitals by law cannot refuse care to anyone even illegals and the under insured .
I'll put it another way;
1 - Obamas plan stops the illegals from having a government subsidized plan - okay buts thats the way it always was including Welfare payments - but they meaning illegals always found a way to fraud that system . Apparently it is very easy to do so .
2 - GOP idea is that a illegal has to prove residence before receiving care - but by law hospitals cannot refuse care to anyone . So under their plan hospitals are supposed to refuse care and kick out illegals so they will die in the streets , is that what we really want ?
Bottom line; Illegals are here and will abuse the system no matter what the plan is GOP or Obamas - INS has to either get these people out of the country or make them legal and not take 10 years to do their jobs .
people have been going crazy over the House version for months now. the House version of a bill is always going to be more extreme than the Senate version. the Senate version is taking longer because they are putting more thought into the intricate details that are making the House bill scary to some folks. i suspect the final Senate version will be closer to the final version that becomes law than the House version. but, that won't stop talk radio and others from going on and on about what is in the House version and also what they want to be in it so that they can feign outrage.
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