#433274 - 06/20/0912:48 PMRe: Steve Jobs was more than sick
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carp
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Good Idea David , that would work .
I could be wrong But I believe in some religions it is considered a disgrace to be buried with missing parts , sorta goes way back to the Crusades or maybe even Dark Ages ?
I agree it's a shame, but maybe one could entice more donors if we eliminated some of their medical debts in exchange for registering.
Actually, they already do that. I'm not sure how much of the debt is forgiven (obviously it's not something you care to think about at the time), but I know it's a decent amount - and also includes some "after death" charges such as transportation of the body to funeral homes, etc...
Aside from all that, I can say from personal experience that it's quite rewarding for the remaining family to know that your loved-one was responsible for saving the lives of one or more people by donating something that they obviously no longer need.
Nothing can bring my sister back, but it brought a little comfort to my family knowing that three other families got to spend more time with their mother and father because she was a donor. We still keep in touch with one of the donor recipients to this day.
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Here's an idea... I sign a contract that says you can have my parts when I'm dead... as long as you pay all the costs of a typical funeral. That way it doesn't fall to family members to come up with the expenses.
The absolute second the individual flatlines, right to your meat should evaporate. Let the family keep the shell, if they need it for some voodoo viewing, but a scoop team should take the viable stuff right away. The gov't has no problem taking my earnings, when I still need them, to benefit others, so why is there a problem if they need my liver (maybe that's a bad choice) to benefit others, especially after I'm done with it?
I'm in no way implying anything about Mr. Jobs...
I'm just saying; Have a care about signing donor cards especially in a climate filled with unscrupulous people in uncertain times wherein people can simply "disappear" (for whatever reason), and never be heard from again.
#433305 - 06/20/0907:12 PMRe: Steve Jobs was more than sick
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Ben Dover
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Well, I'm not fond of being a wet towel, but liver transplants are usually for either (1) hepatitis or (2) liver cancer (whereby often, because it's the liver, cancer has spread to all the body).
Ed
I liked Steve, a lot. He was great. I envy him, not because of what he accomplished, but because he had a great run. If only all our runs could be so robust and so furious.
I think its was because of his Pancreas cancer treatment that led to his liver failure , well thats what it sounded like ?
You're right. They never would have given him a liver transplant if the pancreatic cancer had metastasized to his liver. It was likely the chemo and other treatments that trashed his liver.
Going by statistics or generalizations will only come to the wrong conclusion in this case. Steve has a rare form of pancreatic cancer that is very treatable.
Here's an idea... I sign a contract that says you can have my parts when I'm dead... as long as you pay all the costs of a typical funeral. That way it doesn't fall to family members to come up with the expenses.
Generally, if you donate your body, or a majority of the parts, a phone call is made, they come and get you, they harvest on site, they remove for exam/teaching the remains to a medical school, and in a few weeks they will return cremains to the family if desired. No charge.
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We are figuring out some of this stuff a little too locally around here. Last week we were all here in town enjoying my birthday and various ancillary successes. The following Monday, the Mrs. got word from her MD that after five "clean' years, her breast cancer had resurfaced - in her liver. We were told surgery is not an option at this time. Since then, we have scheduled every known available test, and have an appointment at U Penn for a "second opinion." I was aghast when I suggested to the local oncologist that maybe we should consult a hepatologist, and she shot back an instant "No!" Fuch that.
So, we are waiting for the iPhone app for liver fixes. I'm sure Steve is on it.
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