#428598 - 05/16/0907:41 PMRe: One too many!
[Re: keymaker]
carp
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Originally Posted By: keymaker
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Well I have reasonable belief that the Taliban forced those civilians into harms way and murdered them before the bombing - I call for their arrest
No, that's an unreasonable belief.
km
Why ? my links supports my reasonable beliefs as probable cause - you don't have any support aside that bombs were dropped nor did you even give anything that would support your assuming accusations based on suspicion alone.
I have reasonable belief that the Taliban forced those civilians into harms way and murdered them before the bombing - I call for their arrest
No, that's an unreasonable belief.
Why ?
Because you included all the dead as victims of the Taleban when there are overwhelming reasons to believe, including admissions by your own government, that civilians were killed by the air strikes.
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you don't have any support aside that bombs were dropped
You obviously haven't read my links.
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nor did you even give anything that would support your assuming accusations based on suspicion alone.
#428618 - 05/16/0908:54 PMRe: One too many!
[Re: keymaker]
carp
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Because you included all the dead as victims of the Taleban when there are overwhelming reasons to believe, including admissions by your own government, that civilians were killed by the air strikes.
Yes the US did say that civilians were killed but by who Taliban maybe ?
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Reasonable suspicion is enough.
No it is not enough to call for arrest - ever wonder why the ICC and the UN does absolutely nothing
#428619 - 05/16/0909:06 PMRe: One too many!
[Re: keymaker]
carp
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Medics told Press TV that some of those wounded in the attack have unusual burns which could have been caused by the flesh-eating chemical -- white phosphorus.
admissions by your own government, that civilians were killed by the air strikes.
by who Taliban maybe ?
No, the air strikes were by the US... the Teleban didn't conduct any air strikes.
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Reasonable suspicion is enough.
No it is not enough to call for arrest
Yes, it's enough:
Statute of Rome, Art 58
"At any time after the initiation of an investigation the Pre-Trial Chamber shall on the application of the Prosecutor issue a warrant of arrest of a person if having examined the application and the evidence or other information submitted by the Prosecutor it is satisfied that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the person has committed a crime within the jurisdiction of the Court..."
Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984, ss24(2) and 24A(2)
"If a constable has reasonable grounds for suspecting that an offence has been committed he may arrest without a warrant anyone whom he has reasonable grounds to suspect of being guilty of it.
"Where an indictable offence has been committed a person other than a constable may arrest without a warrant—
(a) anyone who is guilty of the offence;
(b) anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be guilty of it."
Reasonable grounds under these provisions exist in the weight of eyewitness accounts attributing the loss of life to US air strikes:
"The US military initially claimed that all those killed had been participating in a meeting of Taliban militants. Reports and photographic evidence from the scene, however, exposed this claim as a lie. The civilian death toll was confirmed by the Afghan government, the United Nations and human rights groups."
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