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#427440 - 05/07/09 04:35 AM One too many!
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There's been another atrocity in Afghanistan with the US Air Force killing up to 100 civilians in an air strike on Bala Baluk. I'm calling for the culprits to be arrested and prosecuted at the ICC for murder pursuant to Art 7 Statute of Rome.

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#427442 - 05/07/09 04:43 AM Re: One too many! [Re: keymaker]
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Originally Posted By: keymaker
There's been another atrocity in Afghanistan with the US Air Force killing up to 100 civilians in an air strike on Bala Baluk. I'm calling for the culprits to be arrested and prosecuted at the ICC for murder pursuant to Art 7 Statute of Rome.

km


The jury is not in yet on this one:

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A senior U.S. defense official said late Wednesday that Marine special operations forces believe the Afghan civilians were killed by grenades hurled by Taliban militants, who then loaded some of the bodies into a vehicle and drove them around the village, claiming the dead were victims of an American airstrike.

A second U.S. official said a senior Taliban commander is believed to have ordered the grenade attack. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to release the information.

Two other senior defense officials said the grenade report comes from villagers interviewed by U.S. investigators who went to the site, but there is no proof yet that the report is right.

If correct, it would be the first time the Taliban has used grenades in this way, presumably to mimic the effect of a bombing.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30579367/

I'll give them a little time to more fully investigate.


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#427444 - 05/07/09 05:17 AM Re: One too many! [Re: starmillway]
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I'll give them a little time to more fully investigate.

The usual pattern is to deny everything until someone produces incontrovertible evidence and then to retract the denial. That's not the way an investigation is supposed to work - all suspects should be arrested and questioned - not just the dark ones. wink

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#427451 - 05/07/09 07:44 AM Re: One too many! [Re: keymaker]
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I believe the US military/government is also entitled to the 'innocent until proven guilty' treatment.
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#427473 - 05/07/09 02:57 PM Re: One too many! [Re: padmavyuha]
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Correct - the principle presupposes due process rather than immunity from prosecution.

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#427493 - 05/07/09 06:22 PM Re: One too many! [Re: keymaker]
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NO the usual pattern is that the Taliban always says its innocent civilians - could be 100 Taliban terrorist for all we know
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#427498 - 05/07/09 06:43 PM Re: One too many! [Re: carp]
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could be 100 Taliban terrorist for all we know

Could be... but Kate's link says that on previous occasions the US military killed innocent civilians and nothing happened about that so I think the time is overdue when we need to start rounding up a few suspects.

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#427499 - 05/07/09 06:47 PM Re: One too many! [Re: keymaker]
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Collateral damage is always a fact in war - Taliban targets civilians deliberately where is the outrage for that ? What don't you call for their arrest
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#427502 - 05/07/09 07:08 PM Re: One too many! [Re: carp]
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Taliban targets civilians deliberately where is the outrage for that ? What don't you call for their arrest

Well, what Afghan nationals get up to in their own country is a matter for the Afghan authorities.

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#427554 - 05/08/09 12:31 AM Re: One too many! [Re: keymaker]
carp Offline
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Originally Posted By: keymaker
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Taliban targets civilians deliberately where is the outrage for that ? What don't you call for their arrest

Well, what Afghan nationals get up to in their own country is a matter for the Afghan authorities.

km


I see

So your saying that the Taliban can murder its own civilians even if they are no longer their government <-- Okay Pal
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