You've posted this before. Is there some reason you feel the need for redundancy? Are you trying to imply that I condone the alleged torture by the Israelis? Or by anyone else for that matter? I do my best to ignore the majority of your posts, so repeating yourself to me is a waste of your time. In fact, if given the choice between reading your three-part carbon copies and waterboarding, I'd opt for the rag and the canteen. <--- Do YOU get it now?
Carp, it was not legal in the U.S. Not ever. Just because Cheney "decided" is was does not rewrite U.S. or international law. Doesn't matter if the torture was rendered in Gitmo, in Belfast, or in Buffalo, NY. It was, is, and always will be ILLEGAL. <---Get it now (as you love to ask)?
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You must have missed the Cheney interview where he said he got the approval from DOJ , they used wording like "enhanced interrogation" that made it legal . They did not use the word torture but rather other colorful extractions to weed their way around it . No torture laws were changed but enhanced interrogation was approved by DOJ <-- get it now
As I mentioned , if you read it . Gitmo is not on US soil so even if Cheney got legal wording it is not legal in Gitmo let alone with foreign detainees even if they were on US soil
Again what Cheney paved the way for was enhanced interrogation <-- wtf is that ? what level is that on , harsh language or water boarding specific ?
You must have missed the Cheney interview where he said he got the approval from DOJ
Saw the interview several times. You're buying the song and dance that by playing with words and making up your own convenient reality that it was somehow legal. And consider just how totally politicized the DoJ was under Cheney/Bush. If Cheney wanted the DoJ to legalize murder, but only on Thursdays btwn 1PM and 9PM and only in the case of left-handed perps using Englebert Humperdink tapes as the weapon, he'd have gotten "legal" memos saying Go for it!
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You must have missed the Cheney interview where he said he got the approval from DOJ , they used wording like "enhanced interrogation" that made it legal
As a law-enforcement entity, DOJ doesn't have the power to change law, only enforce it -- it can no more change an illegal act into a legal one than Dick Cheney can. Calling 1st Degree Murder "Radical Life Non-Continuance" doesn't make the act itself any more legal, no matter how many lawyers you throw at it. Similarly, calling torture "enhanced interrogation" doesn't make that action any less against the law ...
And if you've been reading the memos, they're fairly specific about what exact actions they're trying to excuse under the guise of "enhanced interrogation," many of which are defined of torture under international law (and, since we ratified the international treaties regarding torture, our law as well) ...
Good luck with that rationale. We'll see soon enough who missed what.
Well even Obama is pushing that one on , back to the DOJ to sort it all out . What we seen was 5 Memos , I mean Memos that is nothing compared to what they did or tried to do as legal documents ? ? Thats the meat and potato stuff
Keep in mind that Obama specialty was Constitutional Law , this is International Law <-- So yes I would throw this "Hot Potato" onto some other poor slob desk to figure out and stay the f__k out of it .
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