LOL , your okay

Just in , 2 suspects water boarded 266 times <-- wtf ?

I would think that after the first couple of times, the effectiveness would diminish - the victim knows it won't kill him.

Yeah I read that too, in the World News
(GAWD --- how HUMILIATING!)

I don't know how you can over ride that
basic survival instinct...
...that & fear of falling,
unless it becomes like the nasal/sinus
purification douche which Yogis practice.

Geez this is awful ! First they told us it was used sparingly... not repeated... they said it worked !

IF they tortured one guy 180+ time in March (forgot the year)... that's 6 times a day .. for 31 days !!! Doesn't seem to have worked, and it sure wasn't sparingly !!

How many LIES can they tell and how many LAWS can they break before we say Justice should be done.. screw the divide issue, screw the don't look back, screw let's move forward, ... we sure didn't say that at Neurenberg !! IF there is a Heaven and Hell, we all know where Bush, Cheney, Gonzales, and Rummy deserve to be sent.

I am just fscking sick of the Bush Administration LIES and lack of any resemblance to following Laws! Nothing they told was was anywhere near the truth!!

I just read:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/21/obama-administration-bush_n_189521.html

Obama has said he doesn't support charging CIA agents and interrogators who took part in waterboarding and other harsh interrogation tactics, acting on advice from superiors that such practices were legal. But he also said that it is up to the attorney general whether to prosecute Bush administration lawyers who wrote the memos approving these tactics.

Not sure I agree that the burden should all be on the attorneys who wrote the memos. Cheney/Bush should shoulder some of the blame!

Only some of the blame?

I can't accept that the orders of superiors are a reason for non prosecution. If one is ordered to perform an act as blatantly illegal as torture the correct response is to refuse the order and report the matter to the police. Okay, shoot, what have we got... those giving the orders should be prosecuted and so should those carrying them out.

km

This is my first bone to pick with Obama. And it's a biggie. I respect his desire not to put the country through the Salem Witch Trials again. Look at the ageda we, as a country, had over Clinton's indiscretion — and that wasn't even close to crimes like torture. But that's the bone. This is about actual crimes. International crimes! If he doesn't have the stomach for it, then step aside and let Congress and the AG do what the law requires them to do — which is to investigate and prosecute if appropriate.

The good news is that Holder has said he's nowhere near settled on his next steps. This is the time for Obama to play good cop/bad cop. Let justice take its course and let Congress and the JD be the bad cops. And I think this will go higher up the food chain than just the Bybees and the Yoos.

But I've gotta say, I'm very disappointed that Obama is letting idealism trump the Rule of Law. This is too important to let pass.

Maybe he is deferring to Congress and the DoJ on this. He has stated that it is his desire not to prosecute, but is leaving the door open for other avenues.

Great News - he's open to prosecuting the law breakers.

those that say focus only on our current problems, don't believe we (USA) can walk and chew gum at teh same time ?? besides the DOJ will be handling the details... not Obama... criminy, what do these rat bass-terds have to do to receive the justice they deserve ?

IF I were Lyndie England's family I'd really be POed right now.. she and a few others were scapegoats just like Willaim Calley (My Lai). Sure what they did wasn't appropriate, but I have NO doubts they thought they were acting on orders... not a few "bad apples" as Bush and Cheney LIED to us about.

What's worse it shows Bush and Cheney for the COWARDS they are... sit there knowing they ORDERED this schitt, and let the troops take the fall... some "support the troops" mentality huh !??