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#424936 - 04/19/09 10:41 PM Re: Hip, hip, HOORAY! [Re: keymaker]
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Moaning? It's a real shame neither of these events happened at your doorstep. Your perspective might have been a little different. Then again, considering the source, probably not so much.
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#424945 - 04/20/09 12:02 AM Re: Hip, hip, HOORAY! [Re: steveg]
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Originally Posted By: steveg
Moaning? It's a real shame neither of these events happened at your doorstep. Your perspective might have been a little different. Then again, considering the source, probably not so much.


roit!

and as everybody knows
...you personally OWN the pain.

Poor You.
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#424948 - 04/20/09 12:26 AM Re: Hip, hip, HOORAY! [Re: Celandine]
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...you personally OWN the pain.
Correct. I do OWN the pain that I personally feel. So what?

Quote:
Poor You.
Says Vicky Victim.
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#424953 - 04/20/09 01:05 AM Re: Hip, hip, HOORAY! [Re: steveg]
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STILL don't get it, do you?
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#424977 - 04/20/09 03:16 AM Re: Hip, hip, HOORAY! [Re: Celandine]
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Not much here to "get" to be honest ...

I'm still trying to figure out why this thread was worth necroing in the first place ...

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#424983 - 04/20/09 04:12 AM Re: Hip, hip, HOORAY! [Re: six_of_one]
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I thought it was worth looking at what people said about torture back in the day when there were only a few people complaining about it. I thought Poly's question was interesting. Have we learned anything. I'd like to say yes, but I'm afraid we'll just all forget again once the pendulum swings again and there is a new administration to stoke fear in people who should otherwise understand the values we share.
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#425001 - 04/20/09 11:04 AM Re: Hip, hip, HOORAY! [Re: newkojak]
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Originally Posted By: newkojak
I thought it was worth looking at what people said about torture back in the day when there were only a few people complaining about it. I thought Poly's question was interesting. Have we learned anything. I'd like to say yes, but I'm afraid we'll just all forget again once the pendulum swings again and there is a new administration to stoke fear in people who should otherwise understand the values we share.


And I still live in hope that now that the nature of torture
(and how people can get around taking responsibility for it)
and who pointed the finger, and was only too glad to share
their well-worn techniques, that would bring home the plight
of the Palestinians (and the reason why they commit acts of
desperation ((face it--- blowing ones self up is about as
desperate as you can get!!!)) in the attempt to bring what's
being done to them to the attention of the WORLD At Large)

TORTURE DOES NOT WORK!
IT ONLY MAKES DESPERATE PEOPLE MORE DESPERATE!


The WORLD "gets it" --- they're now holding it's breath
In HOPE that Obama "Get's It" too.

...and on that note... maybe we can also "get it" when he sez...
"it's time we just put it behind us & look to the future".

(cue carp: "I TOLD YOU SO.")
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#425002 - 04/20/09 11:10 AM Re: Hip, hip, HOORAY! [Re: newkojak]
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once the pendulum swings again and there is a new administration to stoke fear in people
A bit fatalistic, eh? smile

Although, while I would like to think that four years of doing the right thing might wean us off of eight years of lies and criminal activity, we could have a "relapse" at some point if Obama continues to impede the investigations and prosecutions of Bush's own little SS.
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#425046 - 04/20/09 06:59 PM Re: Hip, hip, HOORAY! [Re: Celandine]
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Quote:
(cue carp: "I TOLD YOU SO.")


WHAT ? ?
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#425048 - 04/20/09 07:14 PM Re: Hip, hip, HOORAY! [Re: carp]
Celandine Offline
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Registered: 01/18/04
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Loc: SopranoLand

LOL It was a joke, Son...

Cuing you to tell us (or at least me)
that you'd told us all that months ago.

I was finally agreeing with you;
That maybe it's better to just let go of things.

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