I can't agree with that... atheists support marriage as much as persons of religious faith
Quite - and some of those atheists and persons of religious faith are not heterosexual, and some of them (whether heterosexual or not) support marriage in its sense of a consummated union regardless of gender.
I don't expect you to agree - you've already stated that you consider homosexuality in and of itself to be potentially harmful, so we're not going to agree. You've stated your position, I'm stating mine. I quite understand that for people for whom (for reasons of their upbringing, faith, or prejudice) marriage can only be seen as 'a consummated union between a man and a woman', nothing else is defensible. It's just that the world has for a long time been made up of people for whom that is not the case too. Thus:
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Changing the meaning of a word by legislation is rather petty and certainly can't be justified if it's prejudicial to persons affected by its meaning.
...does not apply in the case where, as is quite natural, laws change over time to reflect the change of language as a result of changes in society and beliefs. In such a case, using law to attempt to withhold said natural change is petty.
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#423771 - 04/11/0902:45 PMRe: KM Bait Iowa court supports gay civil marriage
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When one posts directly below your post, one doesn't need to use the quote feature
Most of us don't even use threaded mode.
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Regarding Vermont, please don't mix war crimes with equality for Gays.
Yeah, well don't go around bombing nations and writing crappy bog paper constitutions about equality when you can't even agree amongst yourselves what the words are supposed to mean.
#423772 - 04/11/0902:57 PMRe: KM Bait Iowa court supports gay civil marriage
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Most of us don't even use threaded mode.
Amazing that what you personally do or don't do; what you personally believe or don't believe; and what you personally agree or don't agree with becomes "most of us." Help me out here. You're either full of yourself, or full of crap. Which is it? Or is it both?
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Yeah, well don't go around bombing nations and writing crappy bog paper constitutions about equality when you can't even agree amongst yourselves what the words are supposed to mean.
Well "most of us" agree on the meaning of self-inflated bigot.
Fear of impermanence is a strong motivator for a belief in eternal soul, eternal laws, eternal damnation, eternal Daddie etc. Poor old world. The only permanent thing is change - bend or break, get with it.
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#423787 - 04/11/0904:10 PMRe: KM Bait Iowa court supports gay civil marriage
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Tried digging for a few minutes that day. Put together what I thought might be valid search terms and date ranges, but didn't get any hits.
Is that it? After all your hot air it turns out your claims were a heap of dog poo? What you still haven't explained is how Obama can "appear to be homophobic" one minute and then "appear not to be homophobic" the next? Celandine said you were... "an annoying little pissant choosing wedge issues in personal little vendettas" - my advice - don’t try arguing with the big boys if you can’t back up your claims... it’s a dead giveaway that you’re out of your depth.