I'm on it right now and I really like it. I don't use 1Password so no worries for me.

This is one feature that I like:

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1Password has been updated. Just enable the option that checks for beta versions. He put out the newest build a couple hours ago.

Basically, what that is saying is that this type of hack isn't as bad as another type of hack. By definition they are still hacks. While I understand the benefit of some of these hacks, relying on them is like walking around with a sign that says "kick me". Yes, you can always uninstall them, provided you're even aware they are hacks in the first place and that they are causing the problems you are experiencing.

What's worse, on other forums, I keep reading about how people are complaining about Safari 4. In each case, it's due to an unsupported hack (not always the same one). While I share their frustration for a bad user experience when something doesn't work, I can't help but think their blame is misplaced. The point here is that when these products stop working (or worse, more important products break because of them), people shouldn't be surprised. I find it irrational that some would hold off installing a major new product because it isn't compatible with a hack they are running. It's reasonable to hold off installing Safari because it's a beta product. But, hold off because of a hack?

i haven't used Safari in years. so the fact that i am holding off on a beta shouldn't be seen as irrational. i am in no hurry. when it's no longer a beta, i still won't be in a hurry. i like Firefox and Flock. Safari is just a curiosity for me.

Not a stupid question actually. Is Safari 3 working after installing 4? I figure the Web Kit was changed so I was wondering if that affected Safari 3.

It replaces Safari 3 completely ...but has an uninstaller

That was awfully considerate of them.

Thx

Top Sites (a ripoff of the feature in Opera, by the way), is nice. But the convoluted method you have to go through to "pin" the sites you want to show up every time is a mess.

Firefox has an extension called FastDial that offers similar capabilities, but allows you to easily customize it, including the preview image. I created custom thumbnails to make it easier to find the sites I have set up (see images below)

Safari Top Sites on the left, Firefox w/FastDial on the right (click image to view larger):

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By the way, if you don't like Tabs on the top, you can type the following code into Terminal and they'll move back below the toolbar:

defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4TabBarIsOnTop -bool FALSE

To put them back on top, just change FALSE to TRUE. Make sure Safari isn't running when you do this.

You can also get your Stop/Reload and your Bookmark buttons back, and put the loading progress bar back behind the URL the way they used to be by entering BOTH of the following into terminal:

defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4LoadProgressStyle -bool FALSE

followed by:

defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4IncludeToolbarRedesign -bool FALSE

I liked the fact that having the tabs on top got rid of the wasted space of the Window bar (about 20+ pixels height), but I missed being able to double click the empty space in the Tab bar to open a new blank tab, and I was really used to where the tab bar was located. You can see the results of the Terminal commands in my Safari screenshot above.

Man, that was quick! Works just fine with Safari 4 (Beta).