Well where your at - but not here

Glad you brought this up. So... how does it feel, White Boy?

Are you starting to get it now?

The correct term is "Haole".

Racist!

This is what I was on about...

I'm glad I was wrong in perceiving you as someone
that would condone that type of behavior.
What just kinda' got glommed onto what I was saying
about "Jack"... and why he reacted in what seemed
like senseless anger on his part when a few members
were spewing a lot of crap about Muslims, instead
of towards al Queida.

He was bounced before he told anyone why... then he
told me to "just ferget about it!" as he washed his
hands entirely of MM.

I'm still angry because I'd gotten to know him pretty
well once I gave him half a chance. Anyway, I'd virtually
met his wife...and his 2 Australian Cattle Dogs, Molly
& Jake... LOL and his chooks (chickens)

Anyway, his wife is beautiful... she looks a lot like
your daughter... and as I said, she's Muslim.

I read some of the posts in this thread and I get the feeling that I'm in that theoretical post-racial world that commentators (mostly tendentiously "conservative" ones) sarcastically laid at the feet of Obama and his election. This is what I know about the way race really works in my neighborhood.

My city, an old, gritty, urban, decayed, economically down the tubes and sinking lower kinda place, is almost entirely black and hispanic. The city is not quite a hell hole, but it definitely is going in that direction. There's crime a-plenty, an astronomical murder rate, theft, hold ups, house invasions, drive-by shootings, drug deals gone sour--you name it: if it's illegal, we've go it. Cross the Schuylkill River into the suburbs and everything changes. There are almost no blacks or hispanics. The streets are clean, the property values high, the tax rates correspondingly low, the crime rate non-existent.

From the point of view of the kids growing up in the area: suburban kids simply don't come into town. Period. They're scared sh!tless. In town, blacks dislike hispanics because hispanics have taken over almost everything. Hispanics hate blacks because blacks challenge them constantly for jobs and housing and so on. The few white kids in the town live mostly in the Heights, the only enclave that has any wealth at all. A few of the kids go to the city schools; most of them go to private schools or parochial schools. The white kids who go to the city schools end up in one of two conditions: they either hate both blacks and hispanics because kids in both groups swagger and strut to establish their status and protect their down in the dirt turf; or they understand what's going on and become incredibly post-racial.

Let me also point out that the crime and all-around nastiness of the city fits quite neatly into the racial prejudices that everyone seems to be saying we no longer believe--except that those prejudices construct the life experiences of every single person in my town. Why so much poverty? Well geeze louise, we're talking blacks and hispanics, man--welfare queens and deadbeat dads whose only real activity seems to be to get women pregnant and then to leave them behind. And don't try to explain to me that there's a powerful residual after-effect of three and a half centuries of slavery and post-slavery apartheid, followed by 50 years of a grudging yielding of civil rights. That's all in the past. It doesn't matter any more. Let's move on. And why oh why can't these people move on? There must be something wrong with them, surely.

I see the hopelessness of the people in my town every single damned day. I see how that hopelessness affects every single thing that they do, from the way that they behave now to the way that they think about their futures. That's not to say that there aren't individuals who work outside of the cultural expectations. Exceptionalism, limited in its scope as it inevitably is, and denigrating to those who are not exceptional as it must be, nonetheless has traditionally been the American answer to social problems, our own peculiar version of pie in the sky. But I can tell you with a great deal of certainty that no one needs to tell the kids in my town what racism is all about. They experience it and its consequences daily.

Thats Government sponsored discrimination , affirmative action is good on the mainland since you people only think about color - Here it back fires

I am
25% - Norwegian
25% - Irish
50% - Japanese

my daughter
Norwegian
Irish
Japanese
Hawaiian
Filipino
Chinese

My grand daughter
Pertuorican
Black
Spanish
Norwegian
Irish
Japanese
Hawaiian
Filipino
Chinese

How can I look at and judge people with color ? I don't and never will . I teach my children to judge a person on their ""attitude" and merits - the school can teach the history of racism

Well said yo-yo

Hers my thoughts on the Mainland USA racial problems .

1 - They just wanna live in the past and keep the racism alive like Sharpton , just keep on bringing it up

2 - They segregate themselves into communities of only one race <-- big big wrong

3 - They keep on not getting better education and employment even with affirmative Action on their side ? ? Gheees , crime is the easy money , education is much to much work and I think its because of segregating themselves into a hell hole

My Hood
I have on the left for a neighbor a Japanese family , to the right I have a typical white family , directly in front a mixed local family , in the back a black family = we all live together

You're still refusing to recognize the most important point, carp. It's not whether you are racist or not. It's whether you're willing to write off those that are. So you've moved on, but what about those that still cling to racist attitudes. You don't think you have to keep an eye on your rear view mirror? You just drive on down the road happy as a clam?

You haven't witnessed what yoyo has. You haven't experienced what I have. You are not, I have to say, speaking from a position of authority, yet you continue to discount those that can! There's nothing else I can say except good luck.

Religion is another source of racism - great you brought that up as well