Let me pull a KM here. According to Hobbes, one cannot be compelled by any positive law to give up the natural right to self-preservation.
I believe that's more like pulling a YY. The right to 'self-preservation' without qualification is stating Hobbes too widely because his general rule of reason of which you have cited the second part concerned the right a person has to wage 'warre' on condition of the first part. His precept is in terms that:
"Every man ought to endeavour peace as farre as he has hope of attaining it and when he cannot obtain it that he may seek and use all helps and advantages of warre."
The obligation to seek peace is the "fundamental law of nature" derived from the gospel "whatsoever you require that others should do to you, that do ye to them".
Hobbes distinguishes between 'natural law' and 'natural right' where only the former being 'law' creates binding obligations capable of enforcement once constituted by the social contract. Natural right on the other hand, the right of self-preservation existing in nature, is that which is transferred to the sovereign under the social contract bringing a civil society into being.
Loc: Pinellas Park, Florida
There are homeless advocate groups that are moving families (usually single parent) into foreclosed houses in South Florida. The banks aren't complaining because the properties are being kept up by the new occupants thus retaining the property value and the neighbors are not complaining because the property is not decaying, being used for drug deals or prostitution, etc. With no complaints, the police are not evicting/arresting.
But a corollary of the first law of nature is that no covenant can be made to transfer or abolish the right (jus, not lex) to self-preservation. In other words there can be no law (lex) that abrogates the right (jus) to keeping on keeping on.
_________________________ MACTECHubi dolor ibi digitus
Loc: Syracuse, NY
Just a follow up to the original story. Turns out the woman who's house ACORN broke into actually did have an arrangement, two years old, to get caught up with the bank. In two years things went from bad to worse, she never lived up to the bail-out the bank offered, the house was foreclosed and the bank has since sold it. So, the ACORN community activist and the previous homeowner are being arrested for burglary and the current owner of the home is suing ACORN.
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