Thanks YoYo , you said it better

That would be MHO also. There is a cartoon that is possibly racist. Do we ignore it or do we discuss it? I don't mind Sharpton bringing this up. The harm would be that we hide it. Do we discuss stuff like this with our kids or do we ignore it? Ignoring it empowers it. Ignoring it is the Ronald Reagan prescription for dealing with racism. Pretend it does not exist anymore. Too bad this doesn't work.

Back to reading "1491". Good book. I need to reread "Guns, Germs and Steel" after "1491". There is so much more out there worth discussing than stupid racist cartoons but the cartoon is worth discussing too.

Sorry

I don't get the connection between Obama and the Kite , either .
Yes Bryan can be a cartoon at times but I believe he does that for thread hits ? other wise a nice guy

The larger question Poly - is why do we need to even BRING it up with our kids ? ? Thats what I am talking about . Don't train the new generations - keep that shiit in history class and leave it there

You don't make any sense. Keep it in history class but don't bring it up with your kids? Don't train new generations? Don't train them to do what? Talk about racism or train them to ignore racism? Just look the other way? Sounds like what a lot of people were doing on the bus with Rosa Parks. "Oh please why doesn't she just go to the back of the bus and stop making such a fuss?"

We need to bring it up with our kids because racism exists. Is the cartoon racist? Not sure but it sure is worth talking about and not ignoring. Training them to ignore it is just wrong.

"There is so much more out there worth discussing than stupid racist cartoons"

I felt and still feel this way after reading Shock Doctrine. Things like this seem trivial. Triviality is in the eyes of the beholder I realize.

Hmm Thanx

Excellent subject for it's own thread.

Yerp!

OH! NOW I Get It!
THE "Elevated Chimp"
See, without Sharpton that went right over me head!
<NOT!>

Geezus can we just shoot HIM instead?

(...and this time I don't mean the chimp.)

edit:
and I'm having the Pancake Queen blown up to POSTER SIZE
thnx

I'm going to wade into this and defend carp. I understand where he's coming from and totally agree with him.

I learned a lot living in Hawaii for a couple of months. Far more than I expected. I always figured it was just a bunch of Americans living on some nice real estate. I couldn't have been more wrong. When you get away from the tourist areas and integrate with the people you soon find out what a true melting pot this society is. Perhaps it's their isolation. Hawaii is out there in the Pacific Ocean far from any mainland. Folks have wandered there from many different regions. Interracial and ethnic marriages are the norm, not the exception. Folks simply don't see colour like mainlanders do. Racism such as it can exist on the mainland doesn't happen in Hawaii. Why is this?

Carp's grand daughter could easily date a black guy, an asian or someone who's a mix of everything. No one would look twice or think anything of it. Kai has no idea to associate black people with apes. Why? I think it's because she's never been exposed to it. In her world there is no such thing. People of different colour and ethnicity have moved along and left their "past" behind them. They went to Hawaii to start a new life and have moved on. The past is the past. Life is what you make of the present. The US has moved along from the days of inequality. Every citizen has the same access and opportunities. It's up to the individual what path they choose. Screaming racist at every opportunity only perpetuates racism.

If everyone had ignored this unfunny cartoon, how many would have seen it? I know I wouldn't have. If it had been ignored, young people like Kai would not know to make such associations. The cycle will never end until people like Sharpton STFU !!!