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#415809 - 02/23/09 01:23 AM Re: It's a cartoon; shut up and sit down [Re: garyW]
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carp is just trying to look at things literally, which is rarely the intent of a political cartoon . . . they're made for figurative interpretation -- and the better ones don't need a lot of interpretation to get the artist's intention, which is partly why this one sux so badly.

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#415815 - 02/23/09 01:58 AM Re: It's a cartoon; shut up and sit down [Re: FSM]
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[censored] on to the next generation and on and on - People like Sharpton has to stop their racism witch hunt , , otherwise the Mainland US will never grow out of being Bigots past onto generations to come .
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#415816 - 02/23/09 02:03 AM Re: It's a cartoon; shut up and sit down [Re: carp]
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I know Carp watches CNN. It was pretty unanimous with the panel on 360, specially Gergen, said the cartoon was borderline racist and depicted Obama.


Metaphor is subjective.



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#415817 - 02/23/09 02:03 AM Re: It's a cartoon; shut up and sit down [Re: carp]
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carp, perhaps you need more of this. it's something that allows people who aren't like other people to still be able to get the gist of how other people might be thinking and where they might be coming from, etc. it doesn't take a racist person to see racism.

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#415818 - 02/23/09 02:08 AM Re: It's a cartoon; shut up and sit down [Re: FSM]
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Originally Posted By: FSM
carp, perhaps you need more of this. it's something that allows people who aren't like other people to still be able to get the gist of how other people might be thinking and where they might be coming from, etc. it doesn't take a racist person to see racism.


Answer me this

1 - Does it do any good to continue to educate new generations - monkeys = Niggers = Obama ? ? thats what Sharpton did

I betcha todays kids had no idea until the Sharpton made a whole big stink out of it
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#415819 - 02/23/09 02:09 AM Re: It's a cartoon; shut up and sit down [Re: garyW]
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Your photo that you removed

Looks like an ad for a pancake house in Alaska
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#415820 - 02/23/09 02:54 AM Re: It's a cartoon; shut up and sit down [Re: carp]
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fwiw, i first saw the cartoon posted online on another forum with the question, "is this racist to you?" i knew right away why the question was being asked before i knew that Sharpton was making a stink. i still haven't heard or seen Sharpton involved in this other than it's mentioned in this thread. the cartoon sucked and is in very poor taste with or without Sharpton.

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#415828 - 02/23/09 04:08 AM Re: It's a cartoon; shut up and sit down [Re: FSM]
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This is MHO.

The meaning of any word or image depends on the context in which the image or word appears. Nothing on earth has an absolute meaning. And since I don't believe in heaven, I guess for me nothing has an absolute meaning. So I think carp is right If one repeats the idea that a particular image has a history of racism, such repetition will place the image in the racist context and so perpetuate the racism. But on the other hand, the alternative to knowing and understanding the history is to make believe that the past is history, so to speak, and has no bearing on the present. To me, that perspective is one of the fundamental problems with the way Americans think. Y'all know I'm so steeped in Shakespeare that I see everything in terms of what he has to say. And the man says that the past is prologue. He's right.

And that's MHO.
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#415830 - 02/23/09 04:22 AM Re: It's a cartoon; shut up and sit down [Re: FSM]
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Originally Posted By: FSM
fwiw, i first saw the cartoon posted online on another forum with the question, "is this racist to you?" i knew right away why the question was being asked before i knew that Sharpton was making a stink. i still haven't heard or seen Sharpton involved in this other than it's mentioned in this thread. the cartoon sucked and is in very poor taste with or without Sharpton.


NO you knew only because of the racist question - remove that question and think what you would have thought .

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i still haven't heard or seen Sharpton involved in this other than it's mentioned in this thread


Don't know what your watching but Sharpton been all over this and I just watched another TV interview last night with Sharpton promoting more racism

Really
Its time to get passed this crap - don't bring it up for our new generations to learn how to hate
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#415831 - 02/23/09 04:23 AM Re: It's a cartoon; shut up and sit down [Re: yoyo52]
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Fine. But when the thread begins with the STFU statement and the same person posts the same stuff on this forum, sometimes you've got to call them out on their BS.




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