#415667 - 02/21/0911:41 PMRe: It's a cartoon; shut up and sit down
[Re: carp]
garyW
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Originally Posted By: carp
...and as for historically , well maybe ? ?
I guess you might want to look up this whole period in US history when blacks were bought and sold as property and the cultural beliefs that promoted it.
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How about the other important issue presented in the cartoon. The dead ape is clearly suppose to be President Obama ... and he's shot dead, three bullet holes and a smoking gun.
Tell me how many US Newpapers ran editorial cartoons of President Bush, or an obvious metaphor for President Bush, shot dead and bleeding? Please don't show me disgusting left wing blog cartoons or photos of protest rallies, show me a political cartoon in a major US newspaper where the Editor decided it appropriate to depict President Bush shot dead and bleeding.
But when it's used to depict President Obama we're told to shut up.
#415683 - 02/22/0905:54 AMRe: It's a cartoon; shut up and sit down
[Re: MrB]
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No brainer. Public perception: Obama=Stim. Ape dead, now someone else has to handle the stim, Translation (and a man with no legs could make this "leap"): Ape=Obama.
And to save another post, I'll ask carp here: So you "got" the reference to the chimpanzee incident the day before the cartoon broke. Now, please expose the connective tissue btwn the chimp shooting and the Stim. If it's that direct, you should be able to articulate it in fewer than 20 words. Ready... set... GO!
Well maybe some didn't see it as others. Obviously you and Steve (Carp) didn't. That's great.
But the whole thing could have been avoided if he'd labeled the chimp.. Congress, Liberals, The Left, Dems, anything !! . . but leaving it open I think sent a 2nd message, and he INTENDED it that way. That's my beef... it was cold calculations.
#415716 - 02/22/0910:05 AMRe: It's a cartoon; shut up and sit down
[Re: carp]
MacBozo
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I can't recall that W was ever portrayed full of bullet holes (at least, not in this country). It was usually intended to show him as the intellectual flyweight that he is.
#415724 - 02/22/0910:41 AMRe: It's a cartoon; shut up and sit down
[Re: DLC]
MrB
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Originally Posted By: DLC
But the whole thing could have been avoided if he'd labeled the chimp.. Congress, Liberals, The Left, Dems, anything !! . . but leaving it open I think sent a 2nd message, and he INTENDED it that way. That's my beef... it was cold calculations.
Now, that is what he should have done. Especially with the chimp being shot earlier. I have never been on a newspaper but have heard that one has to be careful where one puts images and such in a layout so as not to let a nearby piece influence others. There have been many political cartoons that because of lack of labeling, I haven't gotten the connections. This is partly due to that many writers assume one lives near D.C. and thinks that what happens there everyone in the country would get.
Also this relates to a comment I made earlier about folks will have to be more careful during Obama's reign in order not to be labled racist.
dave
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