#414813 - 02/16/0909:28 PMRe: perceptions are everything...
[Re: yoyo52]
keymaker
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I think that the basic argument he usually works from, that a social system is defined by law, not by "moral response" is probably true...
Although I qualify that by acknowledging the force of natural law as a legitimate influence which necessarily takes precedence when it conflicts with positive law. Natural law requires equality for example so that no one section of society is excluded from the polls or from the front of the bus although a person who wants to vandalise the bus can and should be escorted from it altogether.
#414817 - 02/16/0909:53 PMRe: perceptions are everything...
[Re: keymaker]
yoyo52
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I guess we disagree on (for lack of a better way to put it) the moral quality of natural law, KM. The kind of radical equality in the state of nature that Hobbes envisions, for instance, seems to me a mere fiction, with absolutely no basis in paleoanthropological studies.
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#414819 - 02/16/0910:18 PMRe: perceptions are everything...
[Re: VarmintBlubber]
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Insufficient answer.
Well you'll have to make do with it because it included her email address if you want to learn more from the only person who can help with your inquiry.
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Next excuse!
I don't think she's making excuses - just explaining her work and background.
#414821 - 02/16/0910:25 PMRe: perceptions are everything...
[Re: yoyo52]
keymaker
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I guess we disagree on... the moral quality of natural law...
I wasn't necessarily imputing a moral quality... just observing that since men are approximately equal in terms of their attributes there a arises the need for a system of mutual forbearance.
I don't think she's making excuses - just explaining her work and background.
km
But I was referring to you and your excuses... not the same thing at all. Although I expect you know that. You cite her as an authority merely because you agree with her findings... it's not rocket science, after all. It's your dishing it out as gospel that makes it truthy.