I've been listening to the news all day, so I thought I would read the actual bill.
First it will cost 247.5 Mill just to run the program
Spending: (This is just the stuff that going mostly to programs already in existence.)
100 Mill to WIC. 300 Mill to Food Stamps. 1 Billion to the Census bureau. 650 Mill for Digital Converter Boxes. 500 Mill to National Institute of Standards for research. 1 Bill to NOAA for research. 4 Bill for Local Law Enforcement. 600 Mill to NASA for research. 3 Bill to National Science Foundation for research. 6.3 Bill to Weatherization Assistance Program. 20.7Bill to existing energy programs. 3.25Bill to the Bonneville Power Administration (somebody brought home the pork on that one) 800 Mill to Superfund. 200 Mill to Leaking Storage Tank Trust Fund. 8.4 Bill to State Tribal Assistance Grants. 850 Mill to Wildfire Management. (I'm a firefighter and even I think that's insane.) 550 Mill to Indian Health services. 50 Mill to NEA. 80 Mill to Department of Labor Management. 500 Mill to block grant to health centers under Public Health Services Act. 1.5 Bill to National Institutes of Health, Office of the Director. 1.1 Bill to study medicare. 1 Bill to Low income energy assistance. 2 Bill Block grant to states for child care. 1 Bill to Head Start. 1.1Bill to Early Head Start. 1 Bill to Community service. Block Grant. 100 Mill to Community organizations. 200 Mill to Aging Services Program. 2 Bill to Office of National Coordinator for Health Information Technology. 430 Mill to Public Health & Social Services Emergency Fund. 3 Bill to Prevention and Wellness fund. 13 Bill to Education of Disadvantaged. 100 Mill to Impact Aid ???? 700 Mill to Rehab. 16.4Bill to Student Financial Assistance. 50 Mill to Student Aid. 250 Mill to Education Technical Assistance. 160 Mill to Corporation for National Community Service. 300 Mill to Capital assistance for Intercity Passenger Rail Service. 5 Bill to Public Housing. 2.5 Bill Block grants to Project Based Assistance Properties Owners. 500 Mill Native American Housing Block Grant. 1 Bill to Community Development Fund. 1.5 Bill to Homeless Assistance Grants. 100 Mill to Lead Hazard Reduction 79 Bill to State Fiscal Stabilization Fund.
That's just what I got so far. Most of this stuff doesn't belong in a "Stimulus Package". It belongs in an appropriations bill, or several bills. The money train has pulled up to the station and everybody with a pet program has jumped aboard. This is just the start. I'm only about half way through the Bill. God help our Grand-Children.
Edited by Boothby4 (01/29/0902:56 PM)
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it's about time that IDEA get more fully funded. it was signed into law originally under President Ford so it's been shameful that local school districts & states have been burdened so badly. certainly not a "pet" program.
I understand, but this is supposed to be a Economic Stimulus bill. If they wanted to fund this stuff, then they should have brought the bill. This is 800 billion in pork and pet programs, not Stimulus.
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I listened to some discussion of the items, many which you listed here that seem ambiguous and unrelated to "stimulous" to create jobs and help the economy. Yet when the details were discussed there's programs and money allocated for housing weatherization, school construction, road building and other provisions. There are big investments toward Obama's campaign promise of creating jobs that can reduce the nation's dependence on foreign oil. The centerpiece tax cut calls for a $500 break for single workers and $1,000 for couples, including those who don't earn enough to owe federal income taxes. There are also tax breaks for businesses making investments in equipment and renewable energy production.
Look at the big one on your list, 79 Bill to State Fiscal Stabilization Fund.
Valued at $79 billion nationwide over two years, the stabilization fund is intended to help prevent cuts in state programs, particularly education.
A summary from the House Appropriations Committee said the money would be spent in three ways:
• Roughly half, about $39 billion, to K-12 and higher education according to existing government spending formulas.
• $25 billion for “other high priority needs,” including but not limited to education programs.
• $15 billion in “bonus grants” for states that meet “key performance measures.
So a quick look seems to indicate it will take a big burden off of states, keep schools open, employ teachers/mainenaince staff/administrators, build new classrooms and schools, improve education for communities and all the benefits that come from that. When states and counties receive that relief to the stretched budgets, then funding goes to services like fire and police, highway repair, etc. ...
There's also a whole lot of FUD like Drudge's headline that "stimulus will give cash to illegal aliens"
Loc: Syracuse, NY
It is the democrats ultimate dream. It helps solidify the ignorant masses and those dependent on government funds for employ, to forever be suckling on the public teet. And guarantees that they will forever be democrats. Genius really.
I'm not arguing the merits of the various programs. My question is how are they stimulus, and how are they going to employ the thousands who lost their jobs last week.
As for the rest of the bill, there is a lot of spending I didn't list because I thought it was viable. Hell there is even $$ to train Doctors and Nurses that I didn't list.
I will say up front that I haven't read all the bill. I just started listing things as I came across them. Also I'm not against the idea of a stimulus bill. I am on the other hand, very much against a bunch of pork and programs being bundled as stimulus in a take it or leave it bill.
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There are some provisions in there that address illegals, but it has the Dept. of Homeland security paying money to the Social Security Administration and it references another bill having to do with illegals. I haven't read all that.
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WASHINGTON — Illegal immigrants who lack Social Security numbers could not get tax credits under the $800 billion-plus economic stimulus package making its way through Congress.
Two senior GOP congressional officials expressed concern Thursday that the bill could steer government checks to undocumented workers, but in fact the measure indicates that Social Security numbers are needed to claim tax credits of $500 per worker and $1,000 per couple. It also expressly disqualifies nonresident aliens.
The Republicans spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly. But Democrats were quick to reject the notion.
"This legislation is directed toward people who are legal in our country. It is about time the Republicans got a different piece of reading material and get off this illegal immigrant stuff," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev. "This bill has nothing to do with anything illegal as far as immigration. It creates jobs for people who are lawfully in this country."
A revolt among GOP conservatives to provisions of last year's economic stimulus bill, which sent rebate checks to most wage earners, forced Democratic congressional leaders to add stricter eligibility requirements. That legislation, enacted in February 2008, required that people have valid Social Security numbers in order to get checks.
The current plan doesn't contain that requirement, but it imposes the same qualifications for the tax credit as are in place for the earned income tax credit, a program for low-income workers that is limited to people with Social Security numbers.
Douglas Rivlin, a spokesman for the National Immigration Forum, called the GOP criticism "a ploy to undermine the president's stimulus package."
"The boogieman of the week is the undocumented immigrant taxpayer and they're using it to delay or derail legislation to help the economy," Rivlin said.
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