Dooooood! That is is just TMI!

It's quite unlike you to exaggerate, RedStude, but I feel you have on this occasion... women have always been human but not necessarily bestowed with equal rights... at any rate not in Western societies?

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Gay marriage was illegal and something unacceptable by society, now it is. And how dare anybody think otherwise. It took its time to get the acceptance of society and judicial system.. I cannot see why not other illegal and socially unacceptable partnerships too.

I was watching an episode of Oprah a few months ago and she was talking about a newly founded - and legal - organization for Pedophiles and their children partners.. I forgot its name, some googling might bring the name... How soon do you think before they get the acceptance of society and judicial system to tie the knot?

Who's next?

Societies in the world are not giving much though to moral values anymore.. We are accepting now what we rejected before.. Will that advance the society or destroy it? From what I keep reading and hearing, it is the way for a better civilized society.



Personally, I'm not willing to give up my values to become civilized.. I cannot see myself going with the family to attend a Gay Parade with naked and semi-naked people walking & dancing.. I cannot consider this civilized..

As for pedophiles, well, rapists & kidnappers get executed here, yes, the death penalty.

The fact is, there are still many cultures in which same sex marriage — and homosexuality in general — are still not acceptable. By the same token, there are cultures where unions btwn adults and children are not only acceptable, but encouraged. The organization you heard about on the Oprah show may be NAMBLA (North American Man-Boy Love Association). As an organization, it may be legal, but I can assure you, what it represents isn't, at least not in the U.S. And it's been around for quite some time.

But I think the issue is sexual unions btwn adults gradually gaining acceptance and legal standing, as opposed to those btwn adults and children, or btwn humans and other species.

I don't think that accepting same sex unions grants the acceptance of the other societal aberrations you listed. Plus, social acceptance of something doesn't automatically mean mandatory personal acceptance.Your beliefs are still your beliefs. If your gov't said yes to legal same sex marriages, you're not under any obligation to personally embrace the practice.

Now, the one exception would be this steamy relationship btwn SgtBaxter and his dawg!

Your views, so blatantly expressed, are nothing short of thoroughly repugnant. I had thought better of you. Guess I was mistaken.

I am a gay man. I have lived faithfully in a monogamous relationship with another man for many years. We consider that relationship "holy" whether or not it is blessed by the state or any religion. It is love in the highest sense of the word. And I am deeply, deeply offended by your remarks implying that it is somehow dirty and degraded.

Perhaps I should have used the word considered rather than defined. Social changes tend to be met with resistance.

When it comes to 'civilization' I am much more concerned about guns, bombs, tanks, destruction and death than about whether or not gay people want to get married.

That's your point of view, and I respect it..



I went through my earlier postings in this thread, and I couldn't see where I implied that.. Gay Parades, with naked and semi-naked people walking and dancing was the only thing I objected to.. You have the freedom to live your life, but why force it on others? Exposing private parts in public and making a parade to celebrate it is extremely uncivilized, regardless of ones sexual orientation.

As I said earlier, I highly respect all other views and opinions..

I've never heard it expressed that way. Thanks for your viewpoint, good food for thought.

I'm glad you can tolerate the somewhat personal attacks. Your point of view is always welcome here.

Well, considering how abyssmally deficient much of humanity is, it wouldn't be that surprising that some would want to couple/commune/whatever outside of their species .

Ed

It's a thing of mind over matter, but many of the minds don't matter .